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Old 12-18-2009, 04:37 PM
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Re: 12 ga 3.5 or 10 ga 3.5

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I forgot about that one! I'd have to take a serious look at it if I didn't have my 1100. It's a 3" Magnum duck gun, and since the 12 ga. Stan Baker Big Bore Barrel has an internal barrel dia. of .800", I could shoot 3.5" shells if they'd eject.
I hear you .

But I have had problems with the 1100 and the 1187(The 3.5 version) tuning them for all
the loads that a waterfowler has to use.

The 1187 can be adjusted to shoot eather 3 or 3.5 but not both well with the same setting.

I used a 1100 for trap for years and it was great and a friend used one in 2 3/4 ''
but carried a 10 gauge for geese.

I also remember the great old A5 but it was temperamental at best.

I just like having one shotgun that if I want to I can hunt doves,quail,ducks,geese,turkey and larger game like varmints and even hogs without having to change rings,springs and other
parts just to change shells.

There are other brands of shotguns that I like better. But It is the best shotgun I have ever owned for all round shot gunning.

Under the most severe service it just keeps on working. And no I don't own Beretta stock. Ha, Ha.

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Old 12-18-2009, 05:14 PM
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Re: 12 ga 3.5 or 10 ga 3.5

That's true. You posting that reminds me what I had to do to tune it. I had forgotten. I drilled and tapped the gas ports on the barrel, and installed set screws. I drilled thru the center of the set screws to regulate the barrel for the heavier loads. (Well, I drilled a couple of pairs of set screws before I installed them in the barrel, the 2nd set that I tried worked, and they've been in the barrel ever since.)

It really didn't like the heavier loads because Stan regulated the barrel for trap loads. I ended up welding up the top of the barrel where the "bolt" would lock to the barrel when fired because there was too much headspace. It took 3 tries before the weld held up. The first couple of times it'd work for a while, then the weld would start to crack. I did it a 3rd time and sent the barrel out to be cryo treated. Problem solved.

When shooting the Activ shells, the case would separate right in front of the rim, and the rims of the Federal Paper shells would be twice as thick as they were before they were fired. It's fixed now. I called Stan about it and he said that the barrel wasn't guaranteed for shooting reloads..... He's long gone now, and I don't know if anyone took over the business or not.

That drove me to make my own "big bore barrel" for my Model 12, turning it into a Model 25. Patternmaster was kind enough to make a choke for it, although any 10 ga choke tube that will fit a Browning will fit this Model 12.
I retired the 1100 to waterfowling.
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Old 12-18-2009, 07:24 PM
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Re: 12 ga 3.5 or 10 ga 3.5

I have hunted with my SBE for about 8 years now and love it. It never gave me problems, even after I used it as a boat paddle. I've only shot 3.5" shells a few times because saw that my buddies were killing just as many geese as I was with 3" shells. When I lived in NC we shot 2 3/4" #3's with IC or Skeet chokes for ducks in the timber and killed them with no problem. Which ever route you go it is more important to pattern your gun to ensure the load/choke combo shoots great. Be sure to check out specialty chokes, especially for Black Cloud, they shoot way better than factory chokes.

With the avaliable ammo for the 12 ga the 10 ga is obsolete.
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Re: 12 ga 3.5 or 10 ga 3.5

Thanks for the replies, I think I will lean towards a 12 ga with a 3.5 chamber, I am leaning towards a Browning BPS because it is bottom eject with a thumb safety so it will be left hand friendly, but I am open to other suggestions.
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Old 12-18-2009, 11:20 PM
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Re: 12 ga 3.5 or 10 ga 3.5

Now for the next question, would it be worth the expense to have my 28 inch full choke barrel on my old 870 wingmaster fitted for a screw in choke for waterfowl hunting or buy a new barrel that is already equipped with screw in chokes or just put the money towards a new shotgun. Keep in mind that the old 870 is only a 2 3/4 chamber.
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Re: 12 ga 3.5 or 10 ga 3.5

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Now for the next question, would it be worth the expense to have my 28 inch full choke barrel on my old 870 wingmaster fitted for a screw in choke for waterfowl hunting or buy a new barrel that is already equipped with screw in chokes or just put the money towards a new shotgun. Keep in mind that the old 870 is only a 2 3/4 chamber.

New gun, without a doubt. My wife shoots a Beretta AL391 and it's awesome. 3" chamber, adjustable length of pull, and around $800.
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Re: 12 ga 3.5 or 10 ga 3.5

I'd look for a new gun. If it was a 3" reciever, then I'd lean towards a new barrel. For the non-toxic shot, you are handicapping yourself too much by having to limit yourself to only 2 3/4" shells. The saying "speed kills" is very true when looking at non-toxic shot and the only way to get more velocity is to go to a longer shell.
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