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Old 10-02-2009, 04:58 AM
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Black Bear self defense handgun/rifle

Hi folks, I live in Western Washington, land of rain and trees and black bears in some places.

Where I live there are a lot of bears. Not good hunting, it is very dense brush and you have to get out of town quite a way in order to not ruffle someone's feathers.

I live out in the woods away and we have bear trouble from time to time. Whenever I hike I carry a Marlin 30-30, which I have read is supposed to be good.

However, I would like to have more than that in case of attack, and would be willing to carry a sidearm.

Alternately, I have a friend who is suggesting a rifle like a mini 14, which is high capacity clip. The idea being shooting a bear with 10-15 bullets from semi auto rather than 6 slow 30-30 shots.

So questions,

1) What are some good handguns? I have a .40, but what about 357 sig, 357 mag, 41 mag, etc. I assume 44 mag kicks to hard for multiple shot accuracy

2) What about the mini 14? Any reason to consider that in place of the 30-30?

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Old 10-02-2009, 05:37 AM
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Re: Black Bear self defense handgun/rifle

I would rather have at the least a 308 Win cartridge preferably in a semi-auto. I think the mini 14 comes in less powerful cartridges.

I know people that have shot average sized Pa. black bears with a 30-30 but I don't know if those bears are comparable to the ones you are talking about.

It never hurts to have more gun... Well, maybe in the shoulder.
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Old 10-02-2009, 08:50 AM
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Re: Black Bear self defense handgun/rifle

The ole 30-30 is just fine.If you want to carry a hand gun a 41,or 45 colt would be perfect.If you wanted to change your rifle then get one in the cal.of 45,or 41,and you will have ammo for both at the same time.I live in black bear country and they are taken with these cal.every year with no issues.A lot of folks carry the 44 mag as well, but you dont need all that for the bears.Most people cant shoot the full power loads very well anyway.I carry a 41 and feal that it is plenty.pan.
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Old 10-02-2009, 08:54 AM
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Re: Black Bear self defense handgun/rifle

The 30-30 is definately better than a mini 14. The mini 14 is a .223 round and as for accuracy you would be better off to try and beat the bear to death with butt of the gun rather than shoot at it. As for a pistol, the .40 should be a good back up for you. My 2cents anyway
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Old 10-02-2009, 09:20 AM
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Re: Black Bear self defense handgun/rifle

The older Mini's are inaccurate!!!! Have you shot a newer one prtaylor? I have a modified Ruger Mini-14 that shoots under a inch groups at 100yrds.

I would suggest the Mini-30 over the Mini-14 because it is chambered in 7.62. I have a Ruger Super blackhawk in 44 mag and quick follow up shots are not really a problem.

.45 Auto would be my choice for a sidearm in that situation.

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Old 10-02-2009, 11:58 AM
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Re: Black Bear self defense handgun/rifle

Kimber 45 AUTO= NIGHT NIGHT

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Re: Black Bear self defense handgun/rifle

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The older Mini's are inaccurate!!!! Have you shot a newer one prtaylor? I have a modified Ruger Mini-14 that shoots under a inch groups at 100yrds.

I would suggest the Mini-30 over the Mini-14 because it is chambered in 7.62. I have a Ruger Super blackhawk in 44 mag and quick follow up shots are not really a problem.

.45 Auto would be my choice for a sidearm in that situation.
I have not shot a new mini 14. The one I had was terrible and I would not be willing to spend any money on another one. I am glad you got o good one
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