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Old 05-22-2010, 06:09 PM
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bear hunters undergunned ?

Watching a thing about bear attachs on tv .90% of the time looks like you get a small timeframe to get atleast one shot off.1 instant a guy woke up in his tent and seen a bear shadow then about few mins later it attached him.And other cases were people with bows get 1 shot off etc .


Now here's my question.

With the 460 weatherby if i got 1 shot off 500 grain fmj.What do you think my odds of killing him right there would be?.Just think if the people on this show hand a 460 wby and they got 1 shot off do ya'll think the bear would have gotten any closer to attack them ?
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Old 05-22-2010, 06:15 PM
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also what y'all think this will do @ 2400 fps the 525 grain .
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Old 05-23-2010, 05:49 AM
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With the 460 weatherby if i got 1 shot off 500 grain fmj.What do you think my odds of killing him right there would be?.Just think if the people on this show hand a 460 wby and they got 1 shot off do ya'll think the bear would have gotten any closer to attack them ?
Depends on where you hit him. A decent hit and it's lights out for the bear.
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Old 05-23-2010, 06:39 AM
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+ 1 on Miller Outdoors.

Shoot him in the foot with that thing you might find a whole new level of religion. LOL
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Old 05-23-2010, 09:47 AM
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+ 1 on miller outdoors.

Shoot him in the foot with that thing you might find a whole new level of religion. Lol
+2 lol
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Old 05-23-2010, 02:56 PM
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Depends on where you hit him. A decent hit and it's lights out for the bear.
+3!
I bear hunt ALOT. Im talkin black bears tho. I feel that if you have confidence in your firearm, and are fully confident that you can put rounds on target (where they count) in crunch time it doesnt matter what caliber (WITHIN REASON FOR THE CRITTER) Im not suggesting that Id feel comfy shootin Griz with a 243. Could I? Yes. At a reasonable range under the right circumstances. But if anything went wrong..........., I would NOT want that cartrige on a full on charge/attack. If I were hunting Griz, Id take my 300wby or 338wm because of the game I was hunting. Im fully confident with both rifles with the right bullets. Do I need a 460wby? No. Would it work? Yes, of course..........IF I could put rounds on target in crunch time. IMO your best off shooting whatever your most comfortable and accurate with WITHIN REASON FOR THE GAME HUNTED. If you can handle a smaller 300 better, quicker, and more accurately than a 460wby why not take the 300?
Theres always the flip side of the coin that says when a bear is commin you would still feel undergunned even with a Howitzer. But Ill always take what Im most comfy, confident, and accurate with within reason, because shot placement is key.
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Old 05-23-2010, 03:22 PM
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Re: bear hunters undergunned ?

For the large adult boars - talking inland grizzlies or coastal brown bears - I'd like to have a 338 Win Mag, or that .338 caliber - or larger - in a case capacity that large or larger.

For a large black bear, I think much less would get the job done.

I've seen the equivalent of the 338 RUM and 338 Edge in action on large brown bear and with any good hit to the solarplexes, the results are fairly immediate. They overwhelm the bear's physiology and ability to bring on much of a fight. I've also seen the 7mm Rem Mags and from my observations, there was a big difference between these two calibers/cartridges. You might want to 'brain' the charging bear with the 7mm, because I'm not sure a chest shot would stop them in time.

If I were forced to confront these same bears on their food cache and knew I would elicite a fight-to-the death charge in their effort to either protect their food or, heaven forbid, their cubs, I'd take a 460 Weatherby if I had the option. But not with a Full Metal Jacket. Something like a Barnes TXS. The bigger and badder the better, provided I could still shoot it as effectively as a less powerful weapon.

A lot of guides in Alaska carry 338 and 375 caliber cartridges for stopping brown bears. Some go with the 458 Win Mag or equivalent. I've never heard too much in the way of the .460 Wthby Mags as guide guns. But with the right bullet and equivalent quality hits, I have no doubt but what they would be the more effective bear stopper.
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