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Old 04-03-2013, 12:37 AM
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168Berg Hunting VLD'S Bear Worthy???

I have a 7mm300WM Wildcat that cranks Out Burger Hunting 168 Vlds@3140..a buddy of mine shot a bear 300 + pounds last year at 450 yards 2-3 inches behind the front shoulder slightly quartered away.. After 90 minutes crossing the canyon we found a very pissed off boar... A quick expire shot to the CPU... And the excitement was over.. We found a huge entrance 4"+ but no real internal damage. Any experience with these vld's and Bears?? He says they are junk and wants me to change bullets, but I have 400 more.. I have had great success with deer.. Thanks Jesterg
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Old 04-03-2013, 04:40 AM
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Re: 168Berg Hunting VLD'S Bear Worthy???

IDK I shot an Alaskan brown bear with my 30.06 and a 162 AMAX. It was DRT just smoke checked it.
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Old 04-03-2013, 07:49 AM
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Re: 168Berg Hunting VLD'S Bear Worthy???

How did the Amax kill the brownie? Head shot? If not head, tell us the wound details and at what distance? I'm thinking about loading some Amax's, target and hunting.
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Old 04-03-2013, 08:59 AM
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Re: 168Berg Hunting VLD'S Bear Worthy???

We kill some elk every year with the 168 Berger HVLD's. Never had the results you did. But we are not running them that fast either. We have taken several animals with 180's over 3100 from the 7mm-300's I put together and again good results and not one tracking job. So I don't know what happened with your experience.

Here is some pics on entrance and exit of a 210 HVLD in a black bear from my 300 win. As you can see I have great success with them as well as the 215's.

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My 2011 Black Bear and my 300 WM


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Old 04-03-2013, 09:16 AM
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Re: 168Berg Hunting VLD'S Bear Worthy???

Also curious as to what barrel you have and twist rate. Is it by chance a 3 or 4 grove? It seems to me that reports like yours are often associated with some of the lighter bullets for caliber, fast twists, high velocity and deeper jacket scribing 3 and 4 grove barrels. That's just from my personal observations, and some agree with me. But no hard data yet.

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Old 04-03-2013, 04:52 PM
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Re: 168Berg Hunting VLD'S Bear Worthy???

Jeff, your just the one I was hoping to chime in so thanks.. I knew you had one and was hoping you shot bergers.. And would have some input..
My gun was built off of a 700 sendero ssfluted 7mm gun.Rechambered to house the 300 so its not the PRACTICAL..
But it shoots great with the 168 .375@100not as well with the 180.750@100 which is what I wanted to use..So to bad for me. Im not sure of the twist but it has 6 riflings in the barrel. .What speed do you toss the bergers at?
Thanks to all the the replys..
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Old 04-03-2013, 05:30 PM
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Re: 168Berg Hunting VLD'S Bear Worthy???

Your factory barrel is probably a 1 in 9.25 twist. If I remember correctly.

The rifle I set up last was an older 7mm Rem. Sendero with factory tube 26". We are shooting 71.5 gr of H-1000 in it with a 168 HVLD Berger. I don't remember what the velocity worked out to be, but it was under 2900 I am sure.

Not looking for excuses but bear are often in shrubs and brush. Is there a chance the bullet hit a twig first on that bear?

Did the bear go far after the first shot?

I take it you used the same rifle up close for the finish shot, how did it preform up close?

You said these bullets have preformed great on deer, then I don't know why they would not on bear if placed well?

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