In just about every post, ranchers are on here telling me that elk are doing awesome because of them and would not be if it were not for the hay and water. essentially bragging that the elk are the product of their hard work. then the same ranchers are complaining about those elk and that they are a nuisance to that rancher. [/QUOTE]
No there is not bragging what there is are guys telling you the elk herd would not be no where near what it is without ranches, there would be no water improvements so the herds would be much more localized and smaller, there would be no range land improvements, no protection when needed but with that can come some problems at times. You seem to have gotten it in your mind that ranchers are roving the hills shooting elk at will which is just not the case, they are more than happy to let them do their thing 99% of the time and the fact is the elk on private ground is making better business for them these days.
If your bummed about what the elk herd is now you can not comprehend what it would be without the improvements and protection ranchers bring the the elk herd, especially now!!!
The compensation program is a raging joke, I don't think I know of anyone who has actually seen any money that would remotely come close to what the losses were. A Fed has to almost watch the wolf kill your animals to have it ruled a wolf kill.
My uncle is a card carrying member of PETA, a liberals liberal in every way, he loved the wolves, the whole nine yards. The last time he returned from Yellowstone he was absolutely crushed and encouraged me in my wolf hunting, he said if they had been told the truth there never would have been any support for it in their circles. This floored me!!!!
Here's another link, if your really interested in finding all the info from BOTH sides there is a lot of info and links to data. Home