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Old 12-05-2011, 01:56 AM
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Re: Why I don't shoulder shoot elk!

isn't that the shot the folks from The Best in The West like and the elk just ddrt?
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Old 12-05-2011, 09:59 AM
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Re: Why I don't shoulder shoot elk!

IMHO they do that for the effect it will have on camera since the main reason for that show and it's spinoff is to sell rifles and scopes! It's much more dramatic to see the animal go right down than if they had to go and track it down like they might have to with a lung shot animal. Personally I very seldom ever shoot an animal other than through the lungs because if he doesn't drop right there he normally will go down in short order within sight.
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Old 12-05-2011, 12:16 PM
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Re: Why I don't shoulder shoot elk!

That is the classic top of the shoulder shot, that's why I posted it to show people that on a big bull hold lower to impact the spine. On a small bull or a cow that would have been money, blown a section of spine to bits they may have tried to wiggle a little or just been flat out. If you've watched BOTW you'll see a couple shots where they DRT a bull then pan away but the hero shots are not in the same place the bull took the hit and theirs a drag trail in the snow, there is one hit where the bull drops but you see him getting up on his front end as they are panning of it for shooter commentary. I've slammed elk on the ground and had them revive and try to make of a half hour later!!

I'm just trying to give guys a look at what actually is under all that fur and just what they are shooting at. Look at the size of that knuckle, DANG!! Good test would be to go find a fist size rock and try to shoot through it and find your bullet in the ground behind it. Not say you would never shoot through it cause I have, but then again I have had bullet fail to penetrate it, saw two hit at that joint this year that did not penetrate the chest.
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Re: Why I don't shoulder shoot elk!

I have never hunted Elk, but plenty of Whitetail deer and IMO you never want to aim above the spine!
IMO, to do so is totally a mobility shot and NOT designed to kill.
Now the scapula moves up and down with leg movement so care needs to be taken not to follow it up past the spine. IMO, the high shoulder shot is designed to blow bits of bone fragments into the heart/lung area or take out the spine or all of the above.

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Re: Why I don't shoulder shoot elk!

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I have never hunted Elk, but plenty of Whitetail deer and IMO you never want to aim above the spine!
IMO, to do so is totally a mobility shot and NOT designed to kill.
Now the scapula moves up and down with leg movement so care needs to be taken not to follow it up past the spine. IMO, the high shoulder shot is designed to blow bits of bone fragments into the heart/lung area or take out the spine or all of the above.

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The problem, most believe the spine is higher up than it really is.
This is a Deer but the ratio will be close to the same.
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Re: Why I don't shoulder shoot elk!

Good discussion and pics, guys, and thanks for starting it BnG. It's making me think about my shot placement a bit more critically.
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Re: Why I don't shoulder shoot elk!

That's a good picture to see how much meat there is from mid area on up towards the neck. If an animal is hit there with an arrow, there is a good chance the animal will live and I've seen a number of photos with an arrow sticking out of the animal like nothing has happened. However, hit with a bullet it may go down because of shock, but it may get up within a few seconds if it isn't shot again and it will live with little to no blood trail. A number of animals I read about where guys say the animal went down like a rock and had to be dead, only to watch it jump up and never see it again are classic examples of where the animal was probably hit in that meaty area, but note in any vitals.
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