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Old 02-04-2012, 09:18 AM
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Re: Recommendation for 30.06 - 180 grain

my go to gun for 30 years has been an 06. i've shot everything from magpies to moose, even a snapping turtle a couple years ago, using different bullets, mostly the 165-180 range. i've also worked up loads in 2 other 30-06's and each one worked the best with H414 powder. always get 50-100 fps faster and the best accuracy. my gun shoots the 168 ttsx at 2950 with 414, only 2850 with H4350 which is supposed to be the go to powder for that cartridge.
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Old 02-04-2012, 09:54 AM
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Re: Recommendation for 30.06 - 180 grain

Dave Im actually packing up to go to the range this morning. I ended up going with the Speer 180 grain Deep Curls. Based on the load data on the Speer website I loaded test rounds using Reloader 19. Today I will test from 55 grains up to 58.5 grains. If all looks good I will test their recommended max load of 59 grains tomorrow. It is cold here this morning in Michigan but we should see 40 degrees by mid afternoon. I have been itching to get out. I only have 100 yards to work with. I wish I had a longer range so I could do a ladder test. As it is I basically test using 3 rounds and then move up in half grain increments and fire another 3 rounds. I try to evaluate by looking at velocity and group size. I hope I see good results. Thanks. Mike
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Old 02-04-2012, 07:26 PM
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Re: Recommendation for 30.06 - 180 grain

Well Im back from the range. I was surprised that the group sizes were so large. However the bright spot was with the 57. 5 grains of Reloader 19. I must have hit a node because the average velocity for the 3 shots actually dropped to 2617 fps and the group size shrank. Mike


RL 19 FPS Group
58.5g 2767 2.097"
58.0g 2732 1.575"
57.5g 2617 .733"
57.0g 2700 1.250"
56.5g 2655 1.471"
56.0g 2621 1.971"
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Old 02-04-2012, 10:47 PM
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Re: Recommendation for 30.06 - 180 grain

Generally with Barnes you can run lighter bullets. Seems like they like the speed for expansion.
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Old 02-05-2012, 12:27 AM
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Re: Recommendation for 30.06 - 180 grain

One thing I consistently see on many big games animals is guys shooting too far back. Not due to a bad shot but due to an improper aim point. Many guys don't realize that the shoulder angles forward like it does and that the vitals are directly above and in front of the front leg not behind on a broadside shot. If you put a bullet in front of the leg on this picture you will take out the heart, lungs and arteries and he isn't going very far. But just look at what many consider to be the correct aim point, the pocket just behind the leg. You will be lucky to barely hit the lungs. This is the area where elk will suck up a lot of bullets. I think one of the reasons that the high shoulder shot is working so well for guys and becoming so popular is that it is one of the first recommended aim points that actually gets shooters on the correct side of the leg, where the vitals really are.

I hate to even mention what my best performing bullet is on elk when shooting short to medium distances with my 06. A 165gr Hornady BTSP. I have had more 1 shot kills and DRT shots with that bullet than any other.

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Re: Recommendation for 30.06 - 180 grain

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I hate to even mention what my best performing bullet is on elk when shooting short to medium distances with my 06. A 165gr Hornady BTSP. I have had more 1 shot kills and DRT shots with that bullet than any other.

Scot E.
I've been shooting a 06 forever. About eight years ago I became interested in long range shooting using the 06 and started using the Bergers and Accubonds because of the better BC's. As I said in an earlier post I'm having really good results with the 190gr Berger.

This is where I agree with Scot E. The Hornady 150 and the 165 grain "Spire Point" bullets are the absolute best for putting a animal on the ground out to 350-400 yards. I have taken more deer and elk with mainly the 150gr Spire Point than any other bullet.
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Old 02-05-2012, 02:12 PM
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I've been shooting a 06 forever. About eight years ago I became interested in long range shooting using the 06 and started using the Bergers and Accubonds because of the better BC's. As I said in an earlier post I'm having really good results with the 190gr Berger.

This is where I agree with Scot E. The Hornady 150 and the 165 grain "Spire Point" bullets are the absolute best for putting a animal on the ground out to 350-400 yards. I have taken more deer and elk with mainly the 150gr Spire Point than any other bullet.
Jim,

What velocities do you get the the 190gr Bergers out of your 30'06?

Scot E.
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