No More Elk Hunting in Montana in 3 years

[dook]

Just stating the obvious. Anyone who has payed attention to elk and wolf populations knows that we only have about 10% of our (pre-wolf introduction)Montana elk herd left. Wolf populations have gone through the roof and it will not take 2 years for them to kill 80% of our remaining elk.

There are a few pockets where isolated elk won't be found by wolves and some areas surrounded by ranchers who don't take any guff from wolves. Those will not be huntable populations.

Wolves have killed elk for fun and practice.

http://savewesternwildlife.org/sport-killing.html
http://mtmultipleuse.org/endangered/wolf_pics.htm

The intrduced Canadian Grey Wolf is NOT indiginous to the lower 48 states.

http://savewesternwildlife.org/lower-48.html in fact they have killed the last 80 remaining American (smaller) Grey Wolves as was easily predicted. That's what wolves do. They kill weaker competing packs whenever they can. USFWS knew that would happen but went ahead with the elk extermination plan anyway.

[retiredcpo]

I believe the ballance will shift back the other way but never in our life time and not to the levels it was at
retiredcpo

[dook]

Originally Posted by retiredcpo

I believe the ballance will shift back the other way but never in our life time and not to the levels it was at
retiredcpo

What do you think would cause the balance to shift the other way?

[retiredcpo]

Hunting I think you are going to see alot more of them getting shot
Legal or not
alot of people are tired of waiting for the gov to get their heads out(which may never happen)
Idaho is up to 87 so far.
retiredCpo

[Dr. Vette]

Originally Posted by dook

What do you think would cause the balance to shift the other way?

Kill all the wolves not in Yellowstone and let the elk and deer numbers go back up. Even if that were to happen today I think it'd take 10 years.

[retiredcpo]

Dr.
Thats what I saying but I think its going to take 20 yrs or more to get close to what it was
retiredcpo

[dook]

We're not going to make a significant dent in wolf populations by hunting them. All that does is bump off the dumbest 5%. Just ask the Alaskans. They've been hunting them forever. They'll hand you two wolf tags and say "good luck, ha ha ha" knowing most hunters are unsuccessful.

After the dumb ones are shot, hunter success numbers drop off. Wolf control by hunting is "unsustainable", to use a term environmentalists like.

Here's a one hour movie everyone should watch. http://cryingwolfmovie.com/ This is much beter than teevee.