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Old 09-13-2010, 07:14 PM
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Re: How much Energy is needed to take an Elk?

The biggest bull I have ever seen was taken by a little lady with 243. She told me she shot it in just the right spot at 200 yards, it staggered around and dropped.

I have friends who have shot the same elk many times a with 300WM to stop it.

Nicole Simpson took 5 foot pounds with a knife to the throat and dropped dead, but a 5 foot pounds slap to her bottom might not have got her to turn around and look.
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Re: How much Energy is needed to take an Elk?

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Good, luck. Don't be surprised if an elk just absorbs a bullet, be ready to put another one in them. Since it's your first just be ready, I've seen a couple guys just lock up when they didn't grab dirt like a deer. A heck of a lot of elk have been dumped by a 30-06 and if you steer it good your GTG!
The conventional wisdom says that if an elk is still on his feet, shoot again.
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Re: How much Energy is needed to take an Elk?

I agree about the shot placement and that elk can seem like they will not go down with one bullet but later do, I have had a little experience with it. I just have some questions, what does anyone think about the Hornaday H.I.T.S. rating and dose anybody have a good rule of thumb regarding bullet expansion requirements. I asked Hornaday and they did not really answer my question. I also shoot a 30-06; I am going to use the Hornaday Superformance 150Grn SST and with that in mind should I use the 1000ftp of energy in mind?
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Re: How much Energy is needed to take an Elk?

The energy that you are going to have to ponder is yours not the '06's.

I'm one of those that locked up when a big animal didn't grab dirt like a deer. Did the same thing with a coyote one day.

Put the bullet in the proper spot and repeat same until its down. Good advice. Really. Regardless of the cartridge and caliber used.

By the time you get it located, shot, packed out and in the truck you'll know about the energy thing.
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The biggest bull I have ever seen was taken by a little lady with 243. She told me she shot it in just the right spot at 200 yards, it staggered around and dropped.

I have friends who have shot the same elk many times a with 300WM to stop it.

Nicole Simpson took 5 foot pounds with a knife to the throat and dropped dead, but a 5 foot pounds slap to her bottom might not have got her to turn around and look.
Gosh that was a weird comparison.
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I agree about the shot placement and that elk can seem like they will not go down with one bullet but later do, I have had a little experience with it. I just have some questions, what does anyone think about the Hornaday H.I.T.S. rating and dose anybody have a good rule of thumb regarding bullet expansion requirements. I asked Hornaday and they did not really answer my question. I also shoot a 30-06; I am going to use the Hornaday Superformance 150Grn SST and with that in mind should I use the 1000ftp of energy in mind?
A 30cal 150gr sst is not a good choice for elk. I would be looking for something in the 180gr range. You'll get way more penetration, especially if you have to go through any bone to get to the vitals.
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Re: How much Energy is needed to take an Elk?

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I agree about the shot placement and that elk can seem like they will not go down with one bullet but later do, I have had a little experience with it. I just have some questions, what does anyone think about the Hornaday H.I.T.S. rating and dose anybody have a good rule of thumb regarding bullet expansion requirements. I asked Hornaday and they did not really answer my question. I also shoot a 30-06; I am going to use the Hornaday Superformance 150Grn SST and with that in mind should I use the 1000ftp of energy in mind?
I have used a 06 for deer and elk exclusively for many years. The load I used last season 190gr Berger @ 2680 fps work perfectly dropping a elk and a ranged distance of 489 yards.

Energy is important but more so is the bullets performance. Berger recommends a minimum bullet speed at impact of no less than 1800 fps and this is what I set my max distance at if the energy is sufficient and it usually is. Exbal shows the load above runs out of gas at 700 yards and the energy is around 1370 ft-lbs so I don't shoot anything except coyotes beyond that.

Ask Hornady again as to the slowest fps recommend for proper bullet expansion and if they don't give you a solid answer switch bullets!

A bullet to really look at in the near future for the 06 is the new Nosler Long Range Accubond . The 30 cal 190gr bullet has a BC of 640 and a minimum impact speed of 1300 fps. If those things are true it will be a great bullet for the 30-06.
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