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Old 04-09-2014, 04:04 AM
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Colo Point Banking

I'm not sure if you are aware but the point banking issue has returned in Colorado. I was unaware of this until late in the 5 year plan process. If you enjoy hunting Colo on a regular basis you may want to get involved! This could dramatically make it tougher to draw tags in Colo in the coming years....especially tags that take only a few pref pts to draw. If you think point creep is bad now wait until this is re-introduced!

I found out that the CBA is supporting this issue without any input or explanation to it's members. If you have a chance to contact the CBA and the CPW in regard to this issue please do so! There are some interesting posts on the Monstermuley website in the Colo forum. The number of years it takes to draw tags in Colo may have just taken a giant leap in the wrong direction...without you even knowing about it!
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Old 04-09-2014, 07:04 AM
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Re: Colo Point Banking

Please expand mote on this or where one can get more info on this.
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Old 04-09-2014, 09:23 AM
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Re: Colo Point Banking

Point banking in short is where applicants can use their pref pts to draw multiple tags rather than using them all for just 1 tag. If you have more pref pts than what it takes to draw a particular unit you will be allowed to keep the additional pref pts for another draw.

In reality this allows applicants to use their pref pts for more than 1 tag....which in turn will drive the number of pref pts it takes to draw low pref pt units. If you've heard of "point creeping" you could actually call this "point leaping" in units that currently only take 0 to 10 pref pts to draw!

Most of the toughest units in Colo to draw 2, 10, and 201 will hardly be effected because there are so few tags and so few applicants that apply for these units. The units that will be effected the most are the low to middle range units that currently are within most applicants grasp for drawing.

Here's a website with the proportion of hunters at each pref pt category. http://cpw.state.co.us/Documents/Hun...efPtsbyRes.pdf

Notice that 60 to 75% of applicants have 2 or less pref pts to draw. If point banking is available this would change dramatically! This is a HORRIBLE idea in Colorado!
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Old 04-09-2014, 02:17 PM
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Re: Colo Point Banking

So currently I have 6 points in CO and the zone I hunt Elk in is 43, I haven't been getting a deer tag because I want to hunt one of those zones mentioned above. I've only been getting preference points. So now in theory, if I did get drawn for 43 (had I put in this year) I would only have one point taken away? It usually takes one point, sometimes none, to get drawn in zone 43.
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Old 04-09-2014, 02:27 PM
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Re: Colo Point Banking

Let me start by saying my below comments are only to promote a healthy discussion ... not an argument. And maybe this shows my lack of knowledge on preference points.

With that said, my understanding to move over to a banking system is to actually PREVENT preference point creep. There are lots of guys who have 15 - 20+ preference points but still cannot draw hunts like 201 because of preference point creep. Too many people keep waiting for only the top 2 or 3 premier hunts, and there's just not enough to go around each year to support the number of people who want to hunt them. Now all those guys who've waited all these years are simply not gonna blow 20+ points on a 9 point hunt. If you let these guys start dividing their points up they'll "settle" for a few other hunts which will open up the hunts on the high end.

I do agree that over the next 5 years (time duration is a guess) it will make the mid-range preference point hunts much harder (impossible) to get, but that will be short lived until the overall number of high-point holders exhaust their points. So as I understand it, the preference point banking system will be good in the long run for hunters as a whole, but the short term will suck.
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Old 04-10-2014, 06:06 PM
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Re: Colo Point Banking

Timber, that is my understanding as well. Someone who has 15 points saved up isn't going to decide to use them to hunt an area that takes 1 or 2 preference points to draw. It might make those mid-range units difficult to draw for a few years, but in the end I think it could be a good thing.

Jimss, if 60 to 75% of applicants have 2 or less pref pts to draw, how would that change dramatically if point banking went into effect? Maybe I'm just missing something as well.
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Old 04-10-2014, 07:20 PM
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Re: Colo Point Banking

Here is a post that I put on another website. As I state below this is the most concerned I have ever been in regard to the difficulty of drawing tags and "point leaping" in the 30 years I've lived in Colo! Hopefully this explains my concern:

If you think about it how many guys currently just apply for pref pts in Colo waiting for a top tier unit to draw? How many of those guys that have 10 to 18 pref pts have a chance of drawing a 2, 10, or 201 elk tag in their lifetime.....NONE OF THEM! How many of those guys with 10 to 18 pref pts will sooner or later realize they won't draw one of the top tier tags and would jump at the chance to burn their pref pts on several medium tier units....probably ALL OF THEM if they are smart! What will happen to the middle tier units once guys that once just applied for pref pts are now drawing 2 or maybe 3 middle tier units with all their pref pts. It's pretty easy to visualize that mid tier units will escillate.

Once middle tier units "point leap" what will happen to the units below them? Obviously they will take more pref pts to draw. What will happen then? It doesn't take much to figure out that since 5 to 10 pref pt units will then take 8 to 15 pref pts to draw applicants will use pt banking to draw the low tier tags. I can guarantee there will be a domino affect that will spiral down to even the 0 pref pts units! The writing is pretty much on the wall what a point banking system will do in the long term in Colo! Once points "leap" with this system they definitely won't stabilize or ever return to where they are today....pretty much guaranteed! This is actually one of the scariest moments in almost 30 years I've lived in Colo for seeing a change in the draw system that will have horrible implications for everyone....and especially your kids that may want to hunt some day!
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