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Old 01-06-2012, 01:52 PM
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Re: Bullet for elk ?

The long range tv shows, Best of the West, Long range pursuit, and Mcmillians ,Exteme long outdoors or something like that all shoot bergers. Mst of the rifles are large mags. I have seen the 6.5 on there.
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Old 01-06-2012, 02:05 PM
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Thanks for all the info and some really good pictures. I will say that at my local range that I shot a clean hole through a 3/8 steel plate with a 150 grain cor lokt at 300 yards out of the 7 mag. On white tail it did its job very well but I did not like the way they grouped at yardages beyound that so i swithed to the sierra game king. I guess I will buy a couple different brands and see what will shoot well out of the rifles and pick one. Heck after spring turkey season there is nothing to do but load and shoot paper. Thanks again for your input.
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Old 01-07-2012, 12:10 AM
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As a dedicated elk junke I go big. I hung up my 7RM 20 years ago. Can I kill elk with less, yes. First 2 bulls where with my 243. I lost a bull 20 yrs. ago before the technology w/7mm and picked up a 340 WM. I was pushing the smaller bullet to far, when better stuff was there.I want my best chance on a elk of a lifetime and this is LR. I want the right package for the once in a lifetime bull. I do the same in archery, I have a dedicated elk set up.
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Old 01-08-2012, 01:23 PM
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True that sp6x6, I went to a bigger caliber after a few elk didn't go down on the first shot with a 7mm with 175 gr nosler partition, as for berger's and match kings, I've seen first hand that they were definitely not made for close range hunting, I would never recommend them for some one wanting an all around hunting rifle that he or she maybe was gonna shoot a long shot every once and a while, I would say use the nosler accubond, hornady interbond, swift scirocco, just to name a few. And I would also say shoot the biggest caliber you are comfortable and accurate with and run with it and shoot a well constructed HUNTING bullet and don't look back, this is just my opinion and not in any way the only way it has to be, i am sure other guys on here have had different results wich is the way it is, this is just my 2 cents. Shoot a good bullet and put it through both shoulders and you won't be tracking them. Good luck
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Old 01-08-2012, 08:43 PM
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EK338, good advice..too bad more do not follow it..I cannot for the life of me see shooting big game with less than an ideal caliber and bullet..in years past, people had to make do with what they had, but that is not the situation today...I prefer a good heavy caliber rifle for antelope, deer, elk, bear,etc. too much can go wrong between the shot and impact not to have the best we can shoot or afford...when we follow our silly follies using less than adequate calibers and bullets, it is the game that suffers...most prefer not to think of that....

sp6x6, sounds like you are on the right trail for elk ...while I have both a .340 and 375 H & H, most of my elk hunting is done with a hot .30 cal..the .340 does a fine job, just don't see much diff. between it and the .30's...but I usually shot 225's in the 340..most of my elk hunting is done in fairly open country, but I seldom shoot much over 400 yards, prefer to be close if I can...I usually hunt alone, so do not have a spotter....When I was working and time was limited, and I really needed the meat to make ends meet, I shot several elk at 600 plus..Now I have the chance to hunt everyday, all day if needed, and some prime country to hunt in...makes a whole lot of difference in what I need to do..also, with the abundance of cow permits or any elk seasons, I seldom shoot a bull..fat cows make such fine table fare, and I have little room left for elk horns on my wall, and the shop is also full...good hunting....
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Old 01-10-2012, 11:28 AM
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Re: Bullet for elk ?

I used a Barned 168 gr TTSX from a 308 this year, shot through a 6x6 elk lengthwise. Elk dropped on the spot.
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Old 01-10-2012, 03:16 PM
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barnes bullets will do that considering there basicly a solid with a little hole in the end of them or covered in a polymer tip,good bullet choice pretty impressive for a little 308. i've done the same thing with a 225 gr accubond at 3255 fps out of my 338 RUM, man i love rifles with serious horse power. I cant remember what forum it was in on here, but it floored me, it was john burns and a teen age girl hunting elk with a 243 and a 105 gr berger, WT*,,,,,, im sure that im gonna catch some real flack for this, and i dont care but i gotta say somthing, since we are on the topic of REAL ELK BULLETS, ya it was a good shot, ya she had Burns coatching her, ya she hit it DIRECTLY IN THE SPINE, and yes it went down, BUT now give that same shot to a person that saw the video and now assumes he or she can go out and buy a 243 and throw some 100 gr bergers in it, throw a half decent scope on it and call it an elk rifle, put a not very experienced shooter behind it, throw a 5-15 mph varying from left to right wind into the equasion, and all i see is absolute dissaster, and a bunch of wounded elk with target bullets in there guts, John burns is a good shot dont get me wrong, case in point suppose we have a 243 win that you can actually get 3000 fps with a 105 gr berger, at 700 yards it has roughly 7-800 foot pounds of energy and nearly 30" of wind drift with 10 mph wind and 90" of bullet drop if zeroed at 200 yards.....now compare that to a 338 ultra 3200fps, 225 gr accubond zeroed at 200, 70" of drop, 20" of wind drift, OK OK OK now most of you are sayin "well thats not that much of a difference" ya its not, except the fact that the 225 gr bullet has 2500 foot pounds of energy on impact and is still traveling 2250 fps, i would rather have a bullet with over a ton of energy hit behind the ribs cause of the wind than one with just a little more than a quarter of that. Now im not rying to say that everybody should go out and by a super magnum and throw some huge peices of lead down range, everybody should shoot the biggest gun that there comfortable with wether its a 6.5-284 or a 338 Allen magnum, it all still comes down to bullet placement and lots of practice, LOTS, all im saying is if you are going to get into the long range game, dont just watch some video of some random person shooting a cow elk at 700 yards with a varmit gun and target bullets...i mean 243 win (sorry if you think the 243 is a perfect long range elk cartridge) do your research, ask around, ask questions on here, heck there are more guys on this site that have killed animals over 500 yards then you can shake a stick at, and they are all very helpfull and very knowlegeable, so dont feel as if there is no help out there, get the biggest gun you can comfortable shoot at long distance with a good well constructed bullet and practice alot, and only take those shots if your a 150% sure you can make a good hit on that given animal, we all owe it to them to do so ... just my 2 cents
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