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Old 08-01-2010, 07:44 PM
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Which bullet for elk?

I am shooting a 300 WSM and I have narrowed my selection down to two.....
180 grain Nosler BT and 180 grain Accubond. I have never shot an Elk, but, a friend of mine who has shot several of them is telling me to use the BT, saying that it is a forgiving bullet, meaning that if you make a poor shot the animal will get more torn up inside than with the accubond, giving me a better chance to recover the animal.
Please don't let me mislead you. I shoot well and have no intention of making a poor shot or taking a marginal shot, but things happen.
My gun shoots them equally well and I can see my friends point......... I am just looking for other opinions.
Thanks, Bob
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Old 08-01-2010, 08:49 PM
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Re: Which bullet for elk?

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I am shooting a 300 WSM and I have narrowed my selection down to two.....
180 grain Nosler BT and 180 grain Accubond. I have never shot an Elk, but, a friend of mine who has shot several of them is telling me to use the BT, saying that it is a forgiving bullet, meaning that if you make a poor shot the animal will get more torn up inside than with the accubond, giving me a better chance to recover the animal.
Please don't let me mislead you. I shoot well and have no intention of making a poor shot or taking a marginal shot, but things happen.
My gun shoots them equally well and I can see my friends point......... I am just looking for other opinions.
Thanks, Bob
A lot depends on where you like to hit the game (Behind the shoulder,in the shoulder or in the neck. Also how far you will be willing to shoot.

For the realy long shots I prefer the Ballistic tip Because it will expand at lower velocities For
shots under 300 yards I like the Accubond.

For shoulder shots or neck shots at any distance I prefer the Accubonds.

Just my opinion on 300 wsm sized cartriges.

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Old 08-01-2010, 10:17 PM
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Re: Which bullet for elk?

I have not shot near as many elk as I'd like to, but I've taken game with both those bullets here is my take on them.

Ballistic tip - I've taken several mature big-bodied whitetail with the 180gr BT from my 300 win at 3200-3050fps (shortened the barrel 5" and slowed it down). I have had the ballistic tips fail to exit 2 whitetail shot within 250yds. Others I have hunted with had the same performance. That said, I think they have toughened the ballistic tips up in the process of designing the accubond. I have no proof of that other than the performance I have seen on game in the last few years. The 180gr also has a heavier jacket than the smaller bullets.

Accubond - My favorite all-around bullet today. I have never had an accubond fail to exit anything smaller than an elk. A friend of mine shot a 6x6 bull elk last fall at 350yds & I also put a couple shots in him before he went down 125yds later. We had 5 bullets in the vitals (7mm 160gr accubond), none of which exited. The bullets all mushroomed perfectly and retained between 50 and 70% of their weight. I have yet to see an animal hit right with an accubond travel over that 125yds. This is perfect performance by my standards. The bonding process softens the bullets jacket and the plastic tip initiates expansion very quickly. Like the partitions they shed some of the nose as shrapnel to inflict extra damage and retain weight in the rear to drive deep. My next elk hunt I will be shooting accubonds, probably a 180 or 200gr from a 300 magnum because I like to see exit wounds. I use accubonds in all of my big game rifles except the 264 I antelope hunt with, it shoots best with Bergers.

I love being able to shoot cheaper ballistic tips for practice and coyotes with the same loads I use for accubonds on big game.

Good luck on your hunt!
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Old 08-01-2010, 10:40 PM
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Re: Which bullet for elk?

Some of the most epic failures I have seen on elk have been with a BT, I see several every year not make it past the shoulder on an elk, in my opinion they are the worst possible elk bullet, you will tear up more organs with the AB because it will penetrate while open. Long range the BT would work fine because it would act more like an AB. Use the Accubond, it will give you more shot potential than the BT and get through shoulder bones.

I took a guy last year that punched a cow in the shoulder at 75 yrds with a 300 WSM and 180 BT's, I finished her 3 days later when I found her on the edge of a herd, only 45lbs of meat was salvaged. She died to an Accubond not the BT!
Cut an other cow elk that took 3 BT's out of a 7mm at the 200 yrd mark in the shoulder and not one penetrated the rib cage, I could not salvage any meat on the front quarter. I had a hard time trying the Accubond because of how bad the BT is but I'm glad I did!! This is very biased I know so take it for what it's worth.
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Old 08-02-2010, 06:00 PM
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Re: Which bullet for elk?

I have shot both the BT and the AB from a 308 Win. The animals we shot were our lowly woodchuck. We quit using the AB because of expense and the bullet did not open well on such a soft animal. However the BT are devastating on woodchucks. They also shoot to the same POI as an Accubond. If a bullet opens this well on a soft animal like a woodchuck there is no way I would try it on an elk. (Both the AB and the BT were 165)
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Re: Which bullet for elk?

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I am shooting a 300 WSM and I have narrowed my selection down to two.....
180 grain Nosler BT and 180 grain Accubond. I have never shot an Elk, but, a friend of mine who has shot several of them is telling me to use the BT, saying that it is a forgiving bullet, meaning that if you make a poor shot the animal will get more torn up inside than with the accubond, giving me a better chance to recover the animal.
Please don't let me mislead you. I shoot well and have no intention of making a poor shot or taking a marginal shot, but things happen.
My gun shoots them equally well and I can see my friends point......... I am just looking for other opinions.
Thanks, Bob
NBT's
Forgiving, some what if it is high lung, low lung or far back they may help do some extra damage BUT drift one onto the shoulder and I would have plenty of water and running shoes with you. I would never hold shoulder with one. If you intentionally hold shoulder on an elk with a NBT you never worked with NBT's before. With that being said I've killed several African animals 500+ lbs with a 165 NBT out of a 300 Win. All shots were thought out and placed away from the shoulder and were quick and clean.
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Old 08-02-2010, 11:28 PM
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Re: Which bullet for elk?

I have shot an elk with a 180AB through both lungs and there was a faily small exit hole, the elk ran 100 yards and was down.

Shot one with a 180BT (Winchester silver tip)went thru the shoulder and it rand 150 yards toward me and went down in a grainage and still had to be subdued with another bullet.

Shot one with a 150SGK 2 shots thru the lungs and it just stood there both of these exited, the last shot was to the shoulder and it dropped instantly with no exit but ruined alot of good meat.

I no longer aim for the shoulder and pick one of the softer bullets as my first choice. Either one is a great choice but until you need to make the shot you may not know which one would be better. My only instant kills on deer have been with the softer bullets like the SGK and Berger.
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