6mm 95/105vld on elk?

[mike33]

I have a friend whom is one hell of a shot only uses 6mm-284 100 grain bullet which one i dont know and has taken 21 bull elk since 1978. His longest is 700 yars and the average is 400. I think that is impressive like i said he is tops at off hand shooting ranked in top 10 in country on muzzleloader shooting off hand. Im going with him this fall and his point is bullet placement but does not shoot them in the head. yes he has shot more than once to kill them but i think he has done well with a 6mm.
Mike

[theodore]

The farthest shot with a 6x284 that I had ever heard of was 1115 yards..."the bull was just grazing out in the open, so he wasn't on the move. He shot it twice. First shot was a double lung and it coughed blood on the hillside around it, took three steps and turned 180 degrees then he shot it in the shoulder and dropped it."

This info was from best of the west. I believe the load was 105vld @ 3340fps.

A 243 winchester with 22" barrel can send the 105vld @ 3050fps. So the 243 produces 1998fps/931ft-lb @ 900 yards. The 6x284 produces 2018fps/949ft-lb @ 1100 yards. (The actual numbers are probably higher due to higher velocity creating higher bc than stated from bergers)

Trust me folks, I recommend my family member to NOT USE a 243 for elk hunting. They all should use 300 win mags. So they can buy cheap bullets from walmart and still do fine for elk hunting. I'm addicted to long range shooting and shoot hand loads only so its different for my situation.

[theodore]

Good news! I found a much bigger and accurate rifle that I will be able to use on elk this year instead of the little 6mm!!!

[buffybr]

Originally Posted by theodore

Good news! I found a much bigger and accurate rifle that I will be able to use on elk this year instead of the little 6mm!!!

Good choice, and good luck!

[beretzs]

What did you get instead? Scotty

[theodore]

7mm rem mag with 168vld going around 2950fps.

Got back from an elk hunt, had over 30 bulls walk past the cross hair cause none were legal. CO requires 4 point or better or 6" brow tines or longer. Nearly all of these bulls didn't even have brow tines. Quite an unusual year.

[Bud Martin]

Well it sounds like the elk hunt is over but my advise would have been no. I have killed several elk with a 6mm remington myself but always with a good bonded hunting type bullet, I prefer 100 grn interlocks in mine but 100 grn partitions work well also. they just don't shoot as well. even with these heavier jacketed bonded bullets I have seen bullets not penetrate into the body cavity with a shoulder hit and yes I know that's not the perfect hit but in the real world it happens as much as the perfect hit. in my opinion there's not much chance a light jacketed un bonded bullet like the vld or many of the others on the market would penetrate the heavy bone and muscle on the front shoulder of a big bull to reach the body cavity. it would be best to leave the 6mm at home and take a bigger rifle, elk don't always offer the perfect shot and a 300 or 338 will be much more forgiving. just my opinion but it was formulated after over 20 years in the outfitting business watching clients shoot deer and elk.