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Old 02-13-2010, 11:00 PM
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why does a tipped bullet lose so much energy out to 1000 yards i mean it goes from 7000 ft lbs to a 308 @ 1000 yrds . best bc bullet i found for the .458 is the 525 grain lehigh bullet has very nice #'s out there .disregard what i said about they steyr i miss calculatoed lol .but i do think giving the right combo the 460 wby could reach out their
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Old 02-14-2010, 12:54 AM
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Run the 450g GS HV @ 2700fps, bc .391. Gets you out to 650yrds still at 1500fps. Very potent medicine.

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Old 02-14-2010, 07:39 AM
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Re: 460 wby "ok for Elk"???

Ouch. That kick hurts. So does the wallet. IT does hit with around 6000 ftlbs of energy at around 100 yds. at 500 yds about 2500 lbs. a 338 Lapua hits with 4412 lbs at 100 and 2932 lbs at 500 yds, (on average.).
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Old 02-14-2010, 03:54 PM
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Shooting the 460 with heavies causes detached retina's. Something that is not repairable. I would only shoot this if I had a 2.5 ton rhino charging and didn't have an escape route! I have shot the the 458 Win several times with 500 grainers, no brake Model 70 and Rem 700's and they were on dares. Accurate. Cut bull at 100 yards every time (4x). Young and dumb. Now older smarter and educated on ballistics and bullet placement.
Every rifleman man needs to one of these cannons 458/460 once just for S&G.

Good luck with your endevors on the big bore. I have 3 Weatherby's and none of the over 338 cal.
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I read aboput the detached retina's and something dont add up.1 is this was a big problem someone would have sued or brought it to weatherby's attention and their website would have a disclaimer .2 there alot big calibers people repeatedly shoot .See i think recoil ft lbs is just a # .Where you want to be concerned is it recoiling fps .The guy's from accurate powder never had any "retina problems" while testing firing the 600 o.k. 700 ahr. or the 577 t-rex(personal favorite).
like the 460 10 lbs rifle from the factory has 92 ft lbs of recoil with a 500 grain @ 2500 fps .Now add 5 lbs to the gun which a 15 lb gun with the same load has 61 ft lbs or recoil but only 16 recoiling fps .I think the detached retina's have more to do with the individual than the rifle,recoil, or caliber itself
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I read aboput the detached retina's and something dont add up.1 is this was a big problem someone would have sued or brought it to weatherby's attention and their website would have a disclaimer .2 there alot big calibers people repeatedly shoot .See i think recoil ft lbs is just a # .Where you want to be concerned is it recoiling fps .The guy's from accurate powder never had any "retina problems" while testing firing the 600 o.k. 700 ahr. or the 577 t-rex(personal favorite).
like the 460 10 lbs rifle from the factory has 92 ft lbs of recoil with a 500 grain @ 2500 fps .Now add 5 lbs to the gun which a 15 lb gun with the same load has 61 ft lbs or recoil but only 16 recoiling fps .I think the detached retina's have more to do with the individual than the rifle,recoil, or caliber itself
The detached retina issue is a combination of excessive firings and weak retinas.

I would venture to say that few people can shoot a rifle with 90 ft/lbs of recoil and 30+
ft/sec recoil velocity very many times in a row off sand bags.

This is a place for a lead sled or as we used to do, (Place a 25 pound bag of lead shot
between the recoil pad and your shoulder to increase the overall weight of the rifle, thus
redeucing the recoil velocity for extended sessions at the range.

I shoot a lot of big bore rifles (Most have no muzzle breaks) and I still limit my self to as few
shots as nessary to break them in or get a good zero.

There are other issues that can effect felt recoil such as the stock fit and the design.

There was another issue brought up about the weapon recoiling only after the bullet leaves
the barrel. And it depends on the type,design and weight of the firearm. Example= A pistol
will recoil before the bullet exits because ,It is light weight, the grip is below the center line
of the barrel that allows the weapon to rotate upwards(The reason the front sight is higher
than the back)

On a heavy weapon recoil velocity and any movement is slowed by the mass and the bullet may exit the barrel before any movement takes place.

Thats the best I can explain it. Maybe some one else can explain it better than I can.
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