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Unread 02-11-2010, 07:46 PM
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Re: 460 wby "ok for Elk"???

If the barnes tipped bullet is made like their 30 cal counter parts which i seen in 300 win mag @ 3200-3600 fps then it should hold up.I looked @ 460 steyr 20$ loaded shell .Now if the rifle was 2k i would like one but not 5k .
also i like the weatherby becasue you can always download a big shell.But you cant always uploaded super powerful smaller shell's.I think the 300 grain barnes tipped would look pretty neat to loaded in a weatherby 460.Im more of a shotgun person so after i buy it i peobably want buy a another rifle withing 5 years.But i held a vangaurd today and it's smoother action than a rem 700 which surprised me.My brother has a m70 ranger 30-06 and it so smooth you could operate it with chopsticks .And i cant find a action that smooth "nib" until i held that vanguard.I thought rebarreling on to 358 norma mag.would like to do a 8mm rem mag but i need a 375 length action .there's alot of rifles i would like but i with most likely go with a mark v 460.I emailed mpi stock about there m77 style stock for a mark v.I like rugers compact or short pistol grip i dont like the elongated grip i seen om most stocks .
oh yeah i like short forends on rifles because it makes the barrel look longer.I noticed the mark v's forend is long than i like .
basically im redisgning a 460 to be a 600 yard gun lol.so what length forend would i get just need it long enough to attach a bipod .my spelling might be off a little im typing from a laptop and it has no spell check.

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    Re: 460 wby "ok for Elk"???

    I agree with everything L T L R said, but I just like the .460, and would like to see it work.

    Sorry that I didn't get the ballistics done on the Barnes 300 grainers, but my dance card filled up too fast today.

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    Unread 02-13-2010, 05:21 PM
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    I was trying to frind the bc's of that tipped 458 tsx .which would be badass in a 45/70 or 45/120 sharps
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    .236 (G1). It should be an excellent choice for a .45-70 to .45-120 cartridge.

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    I just couldnt pay 1200$ for a sharps though.I held a vanguard the other day now thinking about one of those rebarreled in a 358 norma mag.or if the action was a 8mm magnum but the 8mm is based on the full length h&h case not the cut down version like the win mags or 358 mag which is the same really.but thats a idea for a nother thread i recken
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    Just ran exterior ballistics on the 300gr tipped bullet. The 300gr T-shok should be nearly identical. I plugged in the same constants that I used in reply # 34.

    The 350gr Barnes XFB has a B/C of .402 compared to .236 on the tipped bullet and .234 on the T-shok. B/C makes a huge difference.

    Retained energy on the 300gr tipped bullet is only 582 ft/lbs at 1000 yds and velocity is 855 fps. Subsonic (drops below supersonic at about 620 yds).. It retains 2000 ft/lbs at 395 yds with 1700 fps velocity and is down 24" from a 200 yd zero. Drop at 1000 yds is 560" compared to 360" for the 350gr X bullet. I'd say it's a pretty decent bullet out to about 400 - 500 Yds.

    When you compare with the 350gr XFB included in reply #34, this bullet has much worse ballistics. It looks like a 350gr bullet would be the lightest practical bullet in a .460 beyond 500 yds.

    I use Oehler's Ballistic Explorer and pick the numbers off the trace graphs instead of using the more exact trace reports. The reports have pre-programmed ranges and you can't hunt for a number like you can on the graphs.

    Enough tech crap. I need to load up and go shoot. Tom
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    i ran the ballistic on the 460 300 grain tsx and well i use a rsndom bc but it was close to what you said .but i ran it again from a 460 steyr standpoint which would be 3600 fps + and retained 3000 ft lb @ 1000 yards .
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