Originally Posted by mtnwrunner
Ask elk guides what they would like to see their hunters use and it won't be a 7mm.
Okay, I'll bite on this one.
I've guided, or outfitted, elk hunters for over 30 years now. My suggestion to clients is NOT to use a .300 magnum unless they are already well seasoned with it and can handle the recoil.
If they are determined to use a magnum I STRONGLY suggest a 7 mag. Wonderful round, very capable for elk, and most guys who shoot regularly can master it. Note I say MASTER, not just sling lead.
I really prefer to see clients bring the deer rifle they already shoot well. Shot placement is where it's at. Most hunters simply can't handle the recoil of a .300. Most hunters don't have the skill to use the .308 to its' full potential. The vast majority of elk are shot at under 200 yards.
The value in a magnum is increased range. If you're not shooting past 4 or 500 yards there is no need for a magnum. The old '06 and 270 work great.
Remember guys, most of us on this site do not represent the average hunter... we shoot a lot and can use a magnum to its' full potential.
Even so there are some on here, myself included, who prefer a gun with less recoil.
That said I have owned a number of magnums, including 3-.300's. I would suggest if using these rounds don't waste it on 180 gr bullets, yer '06 can handle them just fine. Use 200's or heavier.
I shot a .300 Jarrett until it was shot out, and I can tell you that 200 gr bullets at 3000 fps are amazingly powerful elk killing projectiles.
I just don't bother with them anymore because I don't need that kind of recoil and blast to kill elk. Oh, I did use a brake because I don't care for heavy recoil. Now I don't care for brakes either.
One more thing, before the argument starts about needing to be able so shoot at that angle where you need to be able to shoot through him end to end to reach the vitals, I guess I'm old school alright. I learned, and still advocate, taking only good shots with reasonable angles. Shooting an elk up the ass is a crappy shot and I don't care what you are shooting. It just makes a mess out of a fine animal, and even with a big magnum there is way too much chance for an awful wound that kills a fine game animal after he has escaped. It's a shot I would be embarrassed to admit I had taken.
Remember, it's hunting, not life and death for us, the hunters.
I don't let my clients take poor shots.