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Old 08-02-2013, 03:28 PM
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300 Win Mag.........................Perfect for Elk?

I have yet to settle on my next rifle build and I know that nothing is perfect. I first settled on a Cooper Mdl 52 Excaliber in .280AI 168gr Berger close to 3,000fps

Then after realizing that with practice and good equipment shots at 600 yards are possible...........I have been considering the 300 Win Mag.
I used a borrowed 300 some years ago to hunt ELk with. It had a MB on it and the recoil did not bother me at all. I finished that hunt with a lot of respect for Elk, like I mentioned before my bull took a 180gr right behind the shoulder, broke the far shoulder and still he went 100 yards before looking back and then going down. The Remington 700 was not much heavyer than my .243

For those who know..............without having to look up all the info right now, does the 300 Win Mag have a lot more going for it than a .280 AI ..........I realize that there is the aspect of shooting a heavier bullet. It appears the the .280 with the 168 Berger has a lot going for it also. According to Darrel Holland he mentioned on his Web sight that the .280 is very close to the 300 in performance. 32gr more of bullet weight................with a 200gr can make a big difference.?
I need a little pushing in the right direction. Mentally I would feel better with a 300 on an Elk hunt, and would have a huge edge in reach on Deer when I get to the place where I would feel confident shooting out to 600 yards. Do the the bigger bullets in the 300 offer a lot more in SD and BC over the 168 .284?

I should mention it more ...............I do appreciate all the feed back you guy give, your field experiance means a lot more than balliistic tables.

Greg
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Old 08-02-2013, 05:18 PM
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Re: 300 Win Mag.........................Perfect for Elk?

Between the .280 AI and .300 Win Mag, I'd go with the .300 Win Mag loaded with the heaviest bullet/highest BC that your rifle shoots accurately.

The .280 AI can equal or close to the 7MM Mag performance, some might even exceed it. My hunting buddy has a Wby MKV in 7MM Mag and wants to get a .300 Win Mag for elk. He doesn't reload or have any desire to. He max range is 500 yards. I told him his rifle has plenty of energy for his intended purpose and I use the chart below (with the exception of the .270 AI, all factory load data).

My unwritten rule is 1500 FT-LBS of energy and 1800 FPS minimum at target impact for elk ... but shot placement is still the key.





Look at Jeff's (BROZ) posts about his .300 Win Mag successes with the Berger 210, 215, and 230. Hopefully he'll chime in.
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Old 08-02-2013, 05:51 PM
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Re: 300 Win Mag.........................Perfect for Elk?

Lets just look at what my 300 win did last season with 215 Berger Hybrids. 19 big game kills, 200 yards to 1285 yards, 3 I can think of over 900 yards, all one shot kills, no tracking. I just told a friend the other day, for hunting out to 1000 for elk, 1300 for deer and antelope, there is really nothing else I will ever need. Shooters from 12 yrs old, to 80, ladies as small as 110 lbs have filled their tags. Never a comlaint about recoil and all love shooting the rifle.

The 215 Hybrid at 3000 fps is the cats meow for this chambering.

Jeff

Details are in this long thread. But a true testiment of what a 11 1/2 lb 300 win can do.

Comparing the Berger 210 VLD to the 215 Hybrid

My 2012 Bull

My 2012 Bull

My wife using the 300 win.

Powderpuff Elk Hunt, Diane Scores Again!!

My Longest kill with the 300 win.

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Old 08-02-2013, 09:53 PM
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Re: 300 Win Mag.........................Perfect for Elk?

I hunted quite a few years for elk while living in Wyoming. The only bullet I ever used was a 165 gr. Trophy Bonded in my 300 Win mag. The elk hated it!!
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Re: 300 Win Mag.........................Perfect for Elk?

Ask elk guides what they would like to see their hunters use and it won't be a 7mm.

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Old 08-05-2013, 07:00 PM
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Re: 300 Win Mag.........................Perfect for Elk?

I've heard that. I've also heard they don't recommend bringing a 300 mag unless you are actually capable of shooting it accurately. I don't put much stock in what elk guides say regarding rifles. They have to base their recommendations on the average John Q. Public they don't know from the Pope. Anyone can talk a good game on the phone making hunt arrangements. The guide has to assume there is a certain amount of gilding the lily on the part of the hunter. Now,when elk guides talk about Elk,I'm all ears. A good friend of mine guided elk and deer for 13 years in Colorado. When he talks I listen. On the other hand I've forgotten more about rifles than he'll ever know. He hasn't spent 40 years being a gun nut. Him telling me what to bring to camp for rifles is like me telling him how to call elk. Doesn't make any sense.
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Re: 300 Win Mag.........................Perfect for Elk?

Well, of course they are going to want their client to shoot a rifle accurately. All I am saying is that (they) "generally" recommend to shoot a heavier caliber. Don't want to start a debate about calibers but the 300 win mag is a FINE elk caliber and I would choose to shoot it over a 7mm. But, hey, that's just me................

Randy

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I've heard that. I've also heard they don't recommend bringing a 300 mag unless you are actually capable of shooting it accurately. I don't put much stock in what elk guides say regarding rifles. They have to base their recommendations on the average John Q. Public they don't know from the Pope. Anyone can talk a good game on the phone making hunt arrangements. The guide has to assume there is a certain amount of gilding the lily on the part of the hunter. Now,when elk guides talk about Elk,I'm all ears. A good friend of mine guided elk and deer for 13 years in Colorado. When he talks I listen. On the other hand I've forgotten more about rifles than he'll ever know. He hasn't spent 40 years being a gun nut. Him telling me what to bring to camp for rifles is like me telling him how to call elk. Doesn't make any sense.
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