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Old 04-01-2014, 09:01 AM
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Re: 30.06 plenty gun for elk?

How do you feel about the 7mm-08?
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Old 04-01-2014, 09:20 AM
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Re: 30.06 plenty gun for elk?

Blur - assuming you are asking me. I have seen a couple shot with the 280, it worked just fine. i saw the one the girl shot with John Burns, with the SPECIAL LR .243 it worked just fine. the 7mm-08, especially with a premium bullet like a tsx or ttsx seems ok. . What i see is: if you live in PA and can go out your back door and shoot a deer (100-200lb) ; it is a LOT different than if you live in houston and paid 7.5k to hunt in sask canada and the deer are 350 pounds. the same goes for elk.
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Old 04-01-2014, 10:40 AM
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Re: 30.06 plenty gun for elk?

The 7mm-08 is a real up and coming round that many are starting kids and women on, as well as for their own more experienced use. It is definitely a lot better round for an elk size critter than a .243, but is not up to the 30-06 ballistics. With a good bullet and kept under under 300 yards or so, I would certainly use it over anything smaller.
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Old 04-01-2014, 11:42 AM
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Hi guys,
I know this may have already been beat to death but having killed an elk just a few days ago, I wanted to bring this up. This is my first time posting and while I am not brand new to long range shooting, I am new to long range hunting.

So, I killed a young cow with a 30.06. The cartridge load was: Nslr comp 168 gr pushed by 59.0gr of Rl 19. The range was about 40 yards. It was a good hit with the bullet punching through the left side of the ribs and stopping at the back of the hide on the right side. (So didn't go through and through).

So, I guess what I am afraid of is that at longer range the bullet might not penetrate if it didn't go through the other side of the hide. Also, this bullet was basically a FMJ, so what would've happened if it was a controlled expansion hunting bullet? So how far would a 30.06 may be effective on elk(cow/ bull)? I am thinking about coming up with a new load with Berger VLDs and IMR 4350 but I am wondering if I need a new elk gun! Has anyone shot an elk with a 30.06 past 500 yards? If so, what was your experience?
Ranthon- you do not say what rifle or how it shoots at 500 yards . you proved that bullet will work , but i would use a different bullet for sure. you can get good brass for both the 30-06 and 300 wm. i have some rifles in each caliber. you can load a 300wm down to 30-06 velocities. but the opposite is not true. i have tried finding more federal high energy factory ammo (30-06TT4) and can't. T he 30-06 is not offered in a sendero . it should be along with the 6.5-284 hope you got another tag this year. ron
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Old 04-01-2014, 01:37 PM
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Re: 30.06 plenty gun for elk?

From reading material, the .243 is effective due to it's Hydrostatic shock. Not the weight of the projectile. Again from reading material, the .243 does more damage than a lot of the bigger cartridges.
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Old 04-01-2014, 02:15 PM
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Re: 30.06 plenty gun for elk?

If it were that effective on elk, everyone would be using it. Trust those of us who have shot elk...
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Old 04-01-2014, 02:19 PM
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Re: 30.06 plenty gun for elk?

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From reading material, the .243 is effective due to it's Hydrostatic shock. Not the weight of the projectile. Again from reading material, the .243 does more damage than a lot of the bigger cartridges.

Don't do too much reading, as there are as many theories on a lot of ballistics stuff out there as there are writers. What you mentioned is common in all projectiles and the amount depends on a number of things INCLUDING the weight of the projectile. Whoever writes that it doesn't needs to go back to the drawing board and learn before they consider themselves an expert and write an article.
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