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Old 04-10-2010, 12:04 PM
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Re: 30-06 loads for elk

I like heavier bullets especially in the 06. I like the 180-200 grain accubond and the 180 grain interbond for elk from the 06. I use 54 grains RL17 with the 200 grain accubond at it clocks 2720 fps and the 180 use 56 grains RL17 and clock 2820 with 1/2" to 5/8" groups the norm on calm days.

I am currently working up a load with the 168 grain etip because it has a .503 BC and near 100% weight retention. If I can get 3000 fps and good groups like I can with the 168 grain BTs I will probably give them a try on my next hunt instead of the accubond.

If you use heavier bullets at the lower velocities of the 06 you really do not need premium bullets. A hornady 190 grain BTSP or 180 grain Speer BTSP would work just fine.

Last edited by 3006savage; 04-10-2010 at 12:15 PM. Reason: added last paragraph
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Old 04-10-2010, 09:08 PM
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Re: 30-06 loads for elk

For many years my "go to" gun was an oldRemy 700 classic in 30 -06 that I got second hand from a hardware store. It was one of them that just had a natural fit, ya know any time you threw it up - it was just there. I topped it off with a Tasco 3x9 world class. miracles do happen because I carried that rig countless miles with many drops, jars, falls you name it and it never ever lost zero. Go Figure.
Anyway I took countless deer, and several elk from 10 to 300 yds with 150 and 165 grain factory loads. I reckon it would still be my favorite but it was destroyed in a house fire. Keep looking for a load that will shoot accurate - then use it, you've got plenty of gun to do the job.
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Old 04-10-2010, 09:31 PM
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Re: 30-06 loads for elk

I like 165 gr Barnes TSX with 4831
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Old 04-10-2010, 09:54 PM
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Re: 30-06 loads for elk

P.S. If you have not done so already, you might check your gun over to make
sure nothing is loose, ie reciever screws, rings, et.
after 20 years could have lost some torque.
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Old 04-10-2010, 10:22 PM
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Re: 30-06 loads for elk

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P.S. If you have not done so already, you might check your gun over to make
sure nothing is loose, ie reciever screws, rings, et.
after 20 years could have lost some torque.
Agree. And, has it been bedded or not?

Also, which model Savage? Has the trigger ever been touched and if so any idea what the pull is?

If all 3 loads shoot the same then also look closely at the rifle.

I "assume" it has been cleaned and de-coppered at some point in its life.
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Old 04-11-2010, 01:30 AM
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Re: 30-06 loads for elk (I lowered the Vel. for the 200 and 210 grainers)

Ladies and Gentlemen,, the 30-06 is way better than 300 yards.

I looked into Hodgdon reloading charts for the 30-06 on bullets of 150 gr,
160, 180, 200 and 210 gr. to get the best velocities.
I used BC's for Nosler Accubond bullets which are better long rangers than
Barn x. And for the 210 I used the BC for Berger VLD. The velocity for the Berger
is pretty hot in my opinion. Here are the results... At 5000 ft of altitude.
Hodgdon charts had no info for the 210 so I had to use a software to calculate it.



The 200 and the 210 were so close for Energy that I just went with the
200 gr.

This clearly tells me with the 200 I'm good all the way to 700 yards on elk.

Years ago an old poster ran some testings and found out that to break both shoulders
on el Elk you only needed 870 ftlbs of energy, (or something close to it)
1500 ft lbs is almost double that and no one should be complaining about not
having enough energy.

Obviously the worst advice for long range shooing on Elk would be the 150 gr. Sure
it will kill it at 300 yards but not with the authority the 200 grains will; besides what if
you can't get closer and the trophy is at 600 or 700? I would be ready with the accubond
200 grainer. Forget the 150, that's not even good for plinking! OK! we can use it for plinking!

I definitely believe that the Nosler 200 gr. with its BC will make any 30-06 Elk hunter
a happy hunter.

The real kicker is in wind bucking abilities. Oh yes! The error you make in judging the wind
is increased by the lack of BC on the 150 gr. bullet. On the other hand the 200 will help
you much better.

When using Berger bullets all the numbers go up looking even better.

Good shooting!
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Last edited by Eaglet; 04-20-2010 at 05:05 AM. Reason: Lowered Volocities for 200 and 210 grners.
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Old 04-11-2010, 05:01 AM
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Re: 30-06 loads for elk

Fantastic data, thanks.

I am interested in staying under 300 yards because of accuracy concerns mostly.

My rifle has been re-scoped with new rings in the last few months. Tightening up at the receiver is a new idea, will check into it. We are debating a new barrel, but I honestly don't know if I'm experienced enough or good enough to be taking shots longer than that even if I was handed a $5,000 rig.

Please keep the input coming.
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