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Old 10-27-2013, 11:01 PM
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Re: someone using your treestand

A couple large thorns off a locust tree in the seat of your stand will keep them out it's not exactly easy on their rear end. This might seem a little extreme to some but I had the sole hunting rights to a place for 5-6yrs and walked in to have some one in my stand. Had a little exchange of words and he left, next time I came into hunt there were cigarette buts everywhere and my stuff had been shifted around. The second time I caught him in it was a few wks later and I held him captive until the game warden could arrive, All you really need is a chain saw and that's what I had. Apparently this wasn't enough to discourage his trespassing so once a couple big thorns had been placed in my seat I waited a few days and went back. I blood trailed him from my stand back to the fence he'd been crossing and haven't heard from the guy since.
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Old 10-28-2013, 07:40 AM
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A couple large thorns off a locust tree in the seat of your stand will keep them out it's not exactly easy on their rear end. This might seem a little extreme to some but I had the sole hunting rights to a place for 5-6yrs and walked in to have some one in my stand. Had a little exchange of words and he left, next time I came into hunt there were cigarette buts everywhere and my stuff had been shifted around. The second time I caught him in it was a few wks later and I held him captive until the game warden could arrive, All you really need is a chain saw and that's what I had. Apparently this wasn't enough to discourage his trespassing so once a couple big thorns had been placed in my seat I waited a few days and went back. I blood trailed him from my stand back to the fence he'd been crossing and haven't heard from the guy since.
Damn, what an asshole. My temper aint good and it gets the best of me. What did game warden do though ?
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Old 10-28-2013, 08:01 AM
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Re: someone using your treestand

No tree stand for me, one, I don't like heights and 2, I've always been a ground hunter. To that end, I have a nice comfortable blind permanently built on my land that I use ocassionally as I mostly find a tree to farmer squat and lean against.

Seems as though my blind attracts trespassers/poachers and I have to work on it every year though it's locked up (with a good pad lock btw).

I've confronhted trespassers before, mostly during bow season. Don't say much, just make it plain I'm carrying a sidearm, usually my 44, you see, public land is at one end of my property and though it's plainly posted, people can't read or don't want to......

I like the public land at one end. The pressure pushes the animals into my ground...and the trespassers too.

I've never caught anyone in or around my blind or abusing it but if I did, I suspect that I'd be leaving the woods alone. No difference between killing an animal and killing an idiot other than you eat the animal and plant the idiot.
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Old 10-28-2013, 10:20 AM
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No tree stand for me, one, I don't like heights and 2, I've always been a ground hunter. To that end, I have a nice comfortable blind permanently built on my land that I use ocassionally as I mostly find a tree to farmer squat and lean against.

Seems as though my blind attracts trespassers/poachers and I have to work on it every year though it's locked up (with a good pad lock btw).

I've confronhted trespassers before, mostly during bow season. Don't say much, just make it plain I'm carrying a sidearm, usually my 44, you see, public land is at one end of my property and though it's plainly posted, people can't read or don't want to......

I like the public land at one end. The pressure pushes the animals into my ground...and the trespassers too.

I've never caught anyone in or around my blind or abusing it but if I did, I suspect that I'd be leaving the woods alone. No difference between killing an animal and killing an idiot other than you eat the animal and plant the idiot.
The same asshole took a **** two feet away from my tree stand.... this could get ugly, I am deeply tired of assholes everywhere.... lord help me
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Old 10-28-2013, 02:49 PM
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Re: someone using your treestand

If it's private land, there is ALOT you can do. Here in TX, the laws being on the books doesn't mean they get enforced. Unless you keep them there until the warden arrives, they won't do anything. Typically to keep them, it is by force. This is much easier to do when not alone. When you approach them, first thing I do is tell them I am not alone. Then somebody fires a shot to verify. This puts them on edge, and they know they will get shot if they get stupid. Or, you back out slowly, call the warden and lead them to the trespasser.

If you know someone has been there, but you never cross them....All kinds of things to do.

I have heard if they are on foot, find where they cross and the trails they use. They look for cameras, but not razor wire in the bushes. If they come across on a four wheeler, razor wire across the trail 12 inches off the ground does a number on the four wheeler and the tires. I hear visiting tire shops during deer season is a great way to pass time. Razor wire 48" off the ground on a four wheeler trail does a number on the torso. I heard you don't have to visit the ER, in small towns you can read about it in the papers or hear the locals talk.

I have no experience with razor wire, it is only stories I have heard.
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Old 10-28-2013, 02:59 PM
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Re: someone using your treestand

This was a double post, but I will use this space to answer the age old questions.

How do you find where they are coming from?

Well, what did we do before game cameras? Fishing line across the trails points in the direction the passer by is heading. This doesn't have to be boot high either. Fishing line across a trail at 5 ft animals don't go through.

How do you know if it's an animal? It won't start at your stand and end at the property line. Also, deer do not break spider webs 5 foot high across a game trail. Trust me when I say, this is a sure sign of a human, and they are easy to spot with a little fog or some morning dew. The spider webs have all the condensation on them.

Brush the sandy spots clear of footprints so you can check for boot direction.

Every phone has a camera now, leave a twig, safety belt, etc a certain way at your stand and take a picture of it. Compare when you return to see it is moved. This cannot be something that the wind or rain can move.

Put small twigs on the trail and take pictures to compare later. Animals may move the twigs, but can't snap them the way a boot can.

They track you when you enter the gate at the lease.....
Look for fishing string across the ends of your gate....If you put it there, it will tell you if anyone is, or has been in there. So if someone else puts it there, they can tell if you are in there to track you BEFORE entering your place while it is occupied. Replace the dang string so they think you are not there.

Brush the boot prints away from the gate area so they cannot tell if you are in there.

Instead of taking the same truck every time, take multiple vehicles. Then they do not know what to be on the lookout for on the roads. Also they won't know how many people are on the lease that they have to dodge.
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Old 10-28-2013, 11:40 PM
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Re: someone using your treestand

The root of the problem is, we live in a society where no one respects the rights of others. If respectful, people would never think about trespass.

I pay the taxes and I own the land but people don't give a damn.

Thats the travesty in all of it.

My land isn't accessable from a road, quad maybe but it's a hike in. My salvation is my neighbor (Ted Nugenr's brother) is charged with being the caretaker, something he has no issue with. The Nugent's respect the land and the owners. In that respect, whether I'm there to hunt or pick mushrooms or just birdwatch, I know someone is there regularly watching.

I still have vandalism and people leaving trash behind in their travels but thats a part of our evolved attitude toward our fellow man.

Do I like it? No. I'd like to build a cabin on it and move there but the inaccessability eliminates that. Just for recreation, nothing more.

God isn't making any more land today or tomorrow. It's a finite commodiry so I haven't an issues with owning some and I accept the responsibilities of cleaning up after the human pigs.

Like I said earlier, if I caught a trespasser, the situation would determine the outcome.
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