Originally Posted by Topgun 30-06
***That speaks a lot for you Sir! Nobody claimed it was a turkey shoot, but when you have a "hunt" where you're paying by the inches of antler that's exactly why it's not considered "fair chase" or allowed in the B&C or P&Y books. Those animals, just as was mentioned in another post, were probably genetically engineered, or at least were conditioned and raised eating supplemental feed out of a trough just like the ones up at the Sanctuary in mid Michigan. Yea, that one is over 1000 acres too, but I met a gal who shot a 160"+ buck there and it came in to a feeder twice and she shot it from a tower blind after she made noise with the gun the first go around and her "guide" told her not to worry and that the buck would be back. He was back in a couple minutes and bango, end of Bucky!!! SCI, on the other hand, would take that buck into their book because they don't give a tinkers damn if the animal was tied to a tree and you walk up and stab it to death to get in their "Book", as long as you have some front money to pay them for that priviledge! Each to his own, but please don't call it "hunting"!!!
I appreciate you noticing that my post says volumes about myself. I could not agree more!
It says I love to put food on my dinner table for my family to enjoy and appreciate that I did not buy it at the local supermarket.
It also says I read the entire thread and comprehend what was written, including post #6 where the OP stated "BUT since there are no fences, there are no guarantees...".
It also says I would take the opportunity to spend time with my family enjoying the outdoors and the chance to hunt for free where the chances of putting meat in my freezer is great. I would take any advantage I could get to do that.
Being that I would take advantages in helping put meat in my freezer, I would also:
Hunt elk in the rut where they practically yell "I'm over here!" all day long.
Hunt spring turkey and lure them to their death with calls.
Hunt over a field planted to attract game.
Hunt over a water tank where water is a natural draw.
Hunt varmints using electronic callers.
Hunt ducks over water.
Glass deer that bed and shoot them from 600+ yards across a canyon.
Hunt late season mule deer in the rut where they get plain stupid looking to do nothing other than breed.
Fish in a man-made lake using bait or lures (canned fishing trip?).
Hunt doves on the edges of fields between feeding and water sources or roosting areas.
Handload and build custom accurate rifles for long shots (isn't that what this site is about?).
Use camouflage and scent control.
Exercise so I can get into canyons where deer bed.
Use high quality optics to locate hidden game.
Use trail cameras to locate where and when game is active.
What a sunofabeech I must be, huh?
Are you honestly telling me that if someone told you they paid for a side of beef and all you had to do was go and attempt to find it, you would not do so?
And yet you admittedly hunt a 300 acre ranch for pheasants that were raised in pens?
Might be time to step off your high horse for a moment and take a minute to re-read the thread and certain posts.
I hunt out west where game is relatively scarce compared to Michigan, and drawing a tag is very tough. It takes between 5-10 years to draw a good rifle deer tag, and 8-15 years to draw a bull elk or antelope tag, so me saying I would take the offer up in a second is a fact that I have no heartache in stating.
As for your comment about "paying by the inch", 99% of guided hunts where I live/hunt are fair chase, and you definitely pay dearly for the service. Many even have trophy fees over a certain score, so they are indeed "pay by the inch" rates. They are mostly on private property with some on public lands, but are fair chase just like the OP stated his hunt is going to be with no high fences. The guides use trail cameras and spend hundreds of hours in the field looking to put clients on game they are proud to take. Using a guide, or paying for a hunt, absolutely does not disqualify them from B&C or P&Y.