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Old 10-28-2010, 12:38 PM
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Re: Barnes triple shock disappointment

Outlaw, thanks for additional intel.

For me, if I had to condense my bullet preferences over the years, it really goes from one bullet to another with a mix of all others in the mix along the way.

I am, in the simplest of terms, a Ballistic tip guy who has transitioned to a TSX/TTSX guy. I've used these bullets on most all big game with almost any other brand and type you can think of in the mix that I've used just to see how they do, but never really holding on to any other kind for long.

I've had 100% success with the following and there's nothing I would do to change the oucome: TSX/TTSX, Btips, Sciroccos, VLDs, Speer, partitions, nosler solid base, and Sierra HPBT hunting bullets.

I have more Barnes bullets on my load bench than all others combined. It's been a fantastic and flawless bullet for me, my brother, and my hunting peers. And just a thought, but prior to shooting the Barnes, I've always been a heavy for caliber shooter. With the Barnes bullets, I have seen that lighter and faster works very well for me. As an example, my first choice for deer/pronghorn in my 270 is the 110 with the 130 in second place. I've never even purchased the 140 or 150 TSX/TTSX.

Hopefully, I will never be disappionted with them. From the history I've had, I don't see it happening.
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Old 10-28-2010, 08:55 PM
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Re: Barnes triple shock disappointment

are you guys telling me that if I used a lighter weight bullet that had a higher impact velocity the bullet petals would not have broken off ?
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Old 10-29-2010, 08:27 AM
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are you guys telling me that if I used a lighter weight bullet that had a higher impact velocity the bullet petals would not have broken off ?
I'm not telling you that. I don't think I've made comments on the petals coming off. Moreover, I haven't a clue whether any I've used did or not since I've never recovered one. I would imagine it's quite possible considering bullet wt, velocity and distance to target on many we've shot. For example, my brother's longest shot on deer and pronghorn has been 200 yards with most being around 20 yards to 80. All DRT. If the petals broke off, it didn't matter. This is with a 270/110 TSX combo with a stout charge of IMR4350 and a 25.5" barrel.
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Old 10-31-2010, 09:49 AM
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These Barnes bullets appear to be the most over rated bullets for their promised performance. I know of and have witnessed very dismal performance on the expansion of these so called big game bullets on our deer here in Australia.
I have three mates who have used these supposed "premium" hunting bullets on Sambar deer (3rd largest deer in the world after Moose and Elk/Wapiti) that max at around 700 pounds. Their shots at Sambar stags were actually filmed as the deer was shot at various ranges from around 80 metres, 210 metres and 370 metres.
In all 3 cases all deer were shot with at least three bullets and needed to be put down as they were either running or kicking. This was not attributed to poor shooting but due to dismal performance and lacklustre expansion of these so called "killer petals" that Barnes bulletts advertises.
I will not talk about the other five stags that ran off wounded and were never found.
These bullets simply perform dismally on the deer we have over here despite all of Barnes' claims.
I for one will never buy these again and nor will I ever recommend them to anyone...not even my worst enemies. FULLSTOP.
Sorry but that is the truth and also my honest opinion of them.

I am curious as to shot placement/lungs,heart,neck, were the sholders hit, spine.
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Old 10-31-2010, 10:05 AM
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correct me if i am wrong, some of barnes bullets talking to a few other reloaders are designed not to expand at all which if you are only shooting throgh some tissue and lungs that is exactly what will happen, nothing. If you shoot just through an animals lungs biology at work with adrenaline if you make a small hole in an animal with little body damage it won't die right there. If you take out a sholder and take out the heart or lungs with it or hit the spine and windpipe that should kill the animal a bit faster. If you think a bullet is terrible after one shot where you see little performace shoot the same kind of animal again in a different spot and compare the results. If you make a determination of of the same shot on the same kind of animal then that conclusion has errors in it. I have use all types of bullets, match bullet to game so to speak and try different bullets. Also look at the distance and power behind the bullet. does it have enough time to do what it is suppose to?
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Old 10-31-2010, 11:32 PM
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I agree with shooting light for caliber weights with tsx's for optimal performance on game. I used to hunt deer with a 7mm-08 and 120 tsx, worked perfectly. One shot was broadside at 175 yards, bullet entered no-mans land, 6 inches behind shoulder high lung shot, clearly not touching spine. Deer flopped on it's side, rear leg stiffened out for about 3 seconds and then went limp. Bullet exited leaving very little bruising and a nickel sized hole. The deadest i've ever seen a deer fall.

Here's my theory...the higher velocity aids in expansion, at the same time the lighter bullets lose a lot more velocity than heavier bullets during initial expansion thus not blowing petals off. Right or wrong i will never forget that shot.

I stepped up to a 1-8" twist 280AI this year as my new hunting spot is 500 yard shots. Am going with a softer bullet, the162 A-MAX. At 2960fps MV it shoots great at 500yds and matches my BDC reticle perfectly.

As to Barnes offering the Tipped version, I say that most people just like polymer tips so it will sell better, and it raises the BC.
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Old 11-01-2010, 12:15 AM
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Re: Barnes triple shock disappointment

I've had nothing but good experiences with light for cal TSX bullets in 25 and 24 caliber. 100 grn in 25-06, 85 grn in .243.........as long as shot placement was in the vitals they've performed great. Most memorable were a couple of antelope, one at 375 and another at a little over 400 yards. They didn't move more than 15 yds with a lung shot and a douple shoulder/heart shot.

Pushing them around 3100-3300 fps..............Still really curious what Barnes has to say in response to the original post/issue.
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