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Straight Back - Behind the Rifle

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Unread 12-05-2010, 09:24 AM
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Re: Straight Back - Behind the Rifle

Originally Posted by 4xforfun View Post
OK, I'll disagree.

You are not "behind" the rifle when you shoot off hand.

You are not "behind" the rifle when you shoot sitting or kneeling.

Why the change for prone?

Just askin!!
The Army teaches guys reflexive fire to square up with their target from the standing position (with individual weapons and not crewed served weapons for obvious reasons), so you are "behind" the rifle. This is for two reasons: 1. To mitigate the effects of recoil and get back on target faster and 2. If you take a center mass hit moving forward the plate will stop the round from penetrating (hopefully). The weakest spot on the individual body armor is on the sides, epsecially under the arm pits. This method is extremely effective at typical engagement ranges we faced in Iraq.
If I am firing from the sitting or kneeling position it's for several reasons:
a. The terrain or vegetation will not allow me to get lower, but I will use a tripod. sticks, or front rest of some sort and get as directly behind the rifle as possible.
b. I need a fast more precision shot without a rest. In this case the standard firing positions apply and you use your bone support structure.
c. They make us use (c) on our qualification range.
The limiting factors on the position to use are: type and weight of weapon being used, (not gonna try a standing off hand shot with my .338 EDGE), time you have to engage, range to target, terrain/vegetation/obstacles (and maybe for me available cover and concealment).

I practice squaring up with the target with my "regular" hunting rifles in case I do need to take a quick shot at game. The limiting factor is gonna be the weapon system itself (size&weight) and how much I can control it.
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Unread 05-21-2011, 11:44 PM
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Re: Straight Back - Behind the Rifle

I always shoot at an angle but will give this a try next time out to see how effective it is.
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Unread 05-22-2011, 04:56 PM
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Re: Straight Back - Behind the Rifle

Originally Posted by squirrelduster View Post
I always shoot at an angle but will give this a try next time out to see how effective it is.

Only downside I see is if you are laying there in wait for a long time, might be a little more uncomfortable.?

I've always been at an angle when shooting prone/bipod. I will give this technique a shot next time I shoot that way. Never hurts to try something new.
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Unread 05-24-2011, 08:51 PM
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Re: Straight Back - Behind the Rifle

In the Marine Corps circa 2002 we were taught the "combat prone" with the body strait behind the rifle. the idea being to create a small silhouette. But for the rifle range it was at an angle. Now shooting an m16 with iron sights sling supported and shooting a scoped bolt gun bi-pod support is not an apples to apples comparison. The snipers I know (which is exactly 4 that I know personally) shoot strait behind the rifle.

it's interesting how tactics change and how some are slow to accept it. It used to be that when you fired a pistol the strong side arm was to be held strait out with no bend at the elbow.

Or during me era the three point sling. when I first got in you would be severely verbally berated for using a three point sling, now they are issued by the units.

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Unread 08-20-2016, 11:53 PM
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Re: Straight Back - Behind the Rifle

I disagree!
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Unread 08-21-2016, 06:47 AM
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Re: Straight Back - Behind the Rifle

I am in total agreement with getting behind the rifle. It had made a major difference with my accuracy with 1000 yard+ shots. With sitting and other upright positions I try to align myself to keep a straight back, unobstructed movement of the rifle as much as possible.

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Unread 11-04-2016, 03:34 PM
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Re: Straight Back - Behind the Rifle

I have tryed to stay as straight as I can behind the rifle while shooting prone. In my experience it makes a difference. When I'm not straight behind the rifle and shoot it is easy to tell at range. Since I shoot right handed it's natural for the body to be angled to left. When I Shoot and my body is angled the cross hairs will end up high and right after the shot, and my POI will be to the right. When I am directly behind the rifle and shoot my cross hairs will end up directly above my target. I feel form is the biggest factor in executing a long range shot. Errors in form don't always show at your sight in or zero distance.
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