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Old 01-11-2012, 06:44 PM
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New Rifle .308 or .270

I am looking at getting a new rifle. I am looking at the Savage 110 HS Precision in a .308 or a Savage 116 Weather Warrior in a .270. Which one will be more accurate at 800 yards. I am planning on using Hornady Sumerformance SST ammo. The .308 drops 190" at 800 yards and the .270 drops 148" at 800 yards. I would think the .270 would be more accurate at this distance because of the drop. But I don't know how much difference a heavy barrel and precision stock make. LEt me know your thoughts and why.
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Old 01-21-2012, 11:43 PM
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Re: New Rifle .308 or .270

With so many options for cartridges, how did you narrow it down to either the .270 or the .308?

The .308Win in a HS-P stock is a really nice combo. The weather warriors are great as well, in fact I love the rifle for some strange reason. I really am not a big fan of the stock that comes with it, but they are relatively lightweight, easy to work on and mod if desired, and have been good rifles for me.

The only thing I don't like about the 10 series are they are not stainless. I like hunting a lot, and with different temps and humidity changes I like the piece of mind stainless. It is hard to argue with a good shooting gun, and in my experience, they are that.

Do you handload? Are you looking at 2 rifles at a good price and trying to decide between the 2? The .270 is a nice hunting round, but I would pick several cartridges before a .270win.

just curious
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Old 01-21-2012, 11:49 PM
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Re: New Rifle .308 or .270

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I am looking at getting a new rifle. I am looking at the Savage 110 HS Precision in a .308 or a Savage 116 Weather Warrior in a .270. Which one will be more accurate at 800 yards. I am planning on using Hornady Sumerformance SST ammo. The .308 drops 190" at 800 yards and the .270 drops 148" at 800 yards. I would think the .270 would be more accurate at this distance because of the drop. But I don't know how much difference a heavy barrel and precision stock make. LEt me know your thoughts and why.
You ask the impossible. No one can predict what the actual rifles you purchase will do with any given lot # of factory ammo. Accuracy, precision, and drop are different.

I have both 270s and 1 308. The 308 is "inherently" more accurate according to many sources. I don't believe it. I'd put my hunting 270s up against my 308 or anyone else's hunting 308 of similar build (barrel length, contour).

A one hold group or 1/2 MOA is what it is regardless of what rifle and bullet were used.

I favor the 270 over the 308 hands down.
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Old 01-22-2012, 08:33 AM
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Re: New Rifle .308 or .270

The reason I am choosing between the .308 and .270 is because both are able to kill a Whitetail deer out to 800 yards with the least amount of felt recoil. Also both have lots of factory ammo available. Unless you get a custom .270, you can not find one with a heavy barrel. I wasn't sure if the heavy barrel on the .308's made much of a difference on accuracy on not. Also if the design of the cartidge made a difference on accuracy.
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Old 01-22-2012, 11:16 AM
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Re: New Rifle .308 or .270

Do you reload? If so, and this is going to primarily be a deer gun, consider something other than those two cartridges. If you want something that's going to minimize drop, while keep recoil manageable and to a minimum, consider the 6.5mm/.264 caliber chamberings - .260 Remington, 6.5x55mm, 6.5 Creedmoor, 6.5x47, 6.5x284, etc. The .260 Remington can be loaded to duplicate the trajectory of the .300 Win Mag and carries more energy and velocity at 1000 yards than .308 with far less drop, something close to or around 3 feet less.

If you don't reload, the factory ammunition choices for .260 are kind of limited. There were about 4 or 5 choices on the shelf at my local Cabela's when I went in the other night and were pretty much limited to 120 grain or 140 grain. Either will kill deer, but you need to find what works best for your rifle depending on the twist rate, etc. .270 and .308 have far more factory options, but if you want accuracy out that far, you probably should consider reloading, depending on what you consider to be acceptable accuracy.
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Old 01-22-2012, 01:03 PM
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Re: New Rifle .308 or .270

I agree with the 6.5 suggestion, however, the OP seems to be very interested in factory ammo. To that I recommend steering clear of most 6.5 applications and stick with the 308 or 270 and learn the actual bullet drop. No worries on killing a deer with either beyond what many shooters are capable of consistently.

Even today, when I go to Bass Pro or Dick's Sporting Goods, I rarely see 260 ammo, and if I do, it is usually close range bullets like the inexpensive Remington core-lokt.
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Old 01-23-2012, 03:10 PM
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You ask the impossible. No one can predict what the actual rifles you purchase will do with any given lot # of factory ammo. Accuracy, precision, and drop are different....


....A one hold group or 1/2 MOA is what it is regardless of what rifle and bullet were used.
That pretty much sums it up.
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