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Old 01-31-2011, 07:25 PM
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Attempted to become a new member, anyone see my post? Target1shooter

Attempted to become a new member, anyone see my post? Target1shooter out of Central NYS

Hello folks, I joined this forum after reading some of your Threads. It appears you are mostly well knowledged shooters and gun enthusiast. I am a paper puncher, don't hunt. I am not a young chap, but have waited many years before I got into shooting. I have a retirement home now on a nice piece of land perfect for target shooting. I own a few rifles but my favorites are the Remington 700 22-250, Ruger 22LR, and TC Hawkin 50 cal. percussion. I built that one over 30 years ago, and only fired it for the first time 3 years ago. I am bit by the bug. I have a nice shooting bench set up on my back deck that looks down on 5 acres of land which ends at the base of a wooded hill. Yes the perfect shooting situation, dirt burm and all. I shoot the Ruger at 100 yards and the Remington 22-250 at 200 yards, As soon as I perfect the gun, i plan on setting up 300 yards and more as time goes by.

I would like to pick your brains. As I stated, I am new to shooting, few years, and spent most of my time reading about the finer points of accurizing and perfecting the consistancy of my shoots. My current question has to do with the 22-250. I have a thumb hole laminated stock, floated bull barrel. I resently built a test cartridge/ jig to measure the chamber depth and the OAL to the start of the rifling. As i read in many blogs and documents, Remington has over drilled these spec's. I am looking at a chamber depth OAL of the cartridge of 1.9485. Now knowing the spec's on reloading this round 1.902, with a max of 1.912. I have to ask. Does that lead to the most accurate outcome. I have adjusted my OAL of the round to allow for .015 of jump (to start with), but am not happy with the total seating depth of the bullet in the cartridge trimed to spec length. I suspect I should go out to an OAL on the cartridge to be within 5 to 10 thousands of the total depth of the chamber. Somewhere around 1.938 to 1.943. Yes I know that the standard cartridges don't come that long. So here is the question. Does my thought process make sence? Is it the right thing to do, to maxiumize accuracy? If so, where or how do I get cartridges in 22-250 that have a longer neck length, that I can maintain an OAL on the Brass of 1.938 to 1.943 depending on the best fit for the gun.
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Old 01-31-2011, 07:48 PM
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Re: Attempted to become a new member, anyone see my post? Target1shooter

The best thing to do would be have the barrel pulled and set back by a smith with a 22-250 match reamer set for varmit weight bullets.

Then you can have a nice tight chamber with a minimum lead length.
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Old 01-31-2011, 07:59 PM
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Thank you for the feedback Cowboy. I was thinking I did not know how to use the forum. I will be contacting a smith first thing in morning to see what he can do for me... Really appreciate the advice..
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Old 01-31-2011, 08:18 PM
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Re: Attempted to become a new member, anyone see my post? Target1shooter

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Thank you for the feedback Cowboy. I was thinking I did not know how to use the forum. I will be contacting a smith first thing in morning to see what he can do for me... Really appreciate the advice..
Hello target1shooter Welcome to the Reloader"s Nest slow down you talk to fast I will in joy your knowledge on the fourm thanks for joining LRH tomestone Saskatchewan Canada
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Old 01-31-2011, 09:39 PM
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Hello target1shooter Welcome to the Reloader"s Nest slow down you talk to fast I will in joy your knowledge on the fourm thanks for joining LRH tomestone Saskatchewan Canada
Well thank you Tomestone, Unlike the majority, I probably started my actual use of rifles many many years after my love of the art started. I have a strong desirer to fully understand all to concepts of accurate, consistant shooting, but also know that my budget maynot support my desire. I have a metals background, but do not have the machinery to perform what I know can be done. I have been in the woodworking hobby for over 40 years, making furniture, so making a nice laminated stock is a fun project. I really look forward to chating with knowledgeable, experience shooters that can help me keep my feet on the ground as I grow in this new hobby. I also have spent much time learning the finer points of reloading accurate rounds. I like to make the tools I need to accomplish my ideas. I have made a few so far and having a blast. Thanks again for the welcome and advise as I go...OH, PS, I am also the worlds worst typeist, so i will apologize now for all the typo's I make and miss.
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Old 02-01-2011, 09:37 AM
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Well thank you Tomestone, Unlike the majority, I probably started my actual use of rifles many many years after my love of the art started. I have a strong desirer to fully understand all to concepts of accurate, consistant shooting, but also know that my budget maynot support my desire. I have a metals background, but do not have the machinery to perform what I know can be done. I have been in the woodworking hobby for over 40 years, making furniture, so making a nice laminated stock is a fun project. I really look forward to chating with knowledgeable, experience shooters that can help me keep my feet on the ground as I grow in this new hobby. I also have spent much time learning the finer points of reloading accurate rounds. I like to make the tools I need to accomplish my ideas. I have made a few so far and having a blast. Thanks again for the welcome and advise as I go...OH, PS, I am also the worlds worst typeist, so i will apologize now for all the typo's I make and miss.
Hello target1shooter my dad was a carpenter when he retired he gave me his tools but I still can"t build a square box little a gun stock you can build a better gun than I have.I have been reloading since the 80s and have never made the perfect round but it fun to keep trying.Have a good Day tomestone
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Old 02-01-2011, 11:42 AM
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Coyboy, Tomestone, and Anyone else, I already gained from this forum, I just made a call to a local Gunsmith that appears to have a decent size following, "Gun Works of CNY" They seem to get business from all around the north east territory. ANYWAY, Here is what I received from my talks with him. I am seriously considering, but need your expert assistance.
He states he can cut one thread off, approx. .062 and rechamber the barrel with a minium tolerance ream. That he states will allow me to spec my brass and proper set my bullet with the proper jump space. he will also lap the lugs and square the bolt face. That operation will cost $185.00 plus a $50 rental of the ream. He also stated that the work he does is a waste of my money and time if the Barrel is not good. Apearantly there could be a "node" I appologize, not exactly sure that is the term he used, which could be in the barrel. If that is anywhere near the center of the length, that could cause a compression on the bullet which will in turn cause a slight loosening of the bullet in the remaining travel through the barrel to the muzzel. If this is the case, then he suggest I don't waste my money, and get a new barrel. He can inspect the barrel for $54 and determine that. He also states he can get it to shoot .5 or better MOA at 100yards with premium ammo. IS THAT, NORMAL? I would have expected more from this work at 100 yards.

OK, here's the help I need. If this all makes sence to you folks, and the barrel is good, Is there anything else I should have him do at this time? I kow the trigger could be done. It has the factory "X-PRO" trigger, I think its set from them at around 4 lbs. I assume 2 to 2.5 pounds would be better for a bench rest target rifle. Anything else I should have done? Muzzle crown? or anything else I may not have already read about? ( I think I just said everything I resently learned about this topic). If this all makes sence, I assume you would agree to go with it. If not please let me know, and I will hold off. If this is good. PLEASE give me your opinions as to what I should do here, what I should ask him to do for me. The sum total for what he is asking is $289. I think I can do that financially, and if you all think it will greatly improve the guns accuracy, I might be able to go for the trigger adj. and muzzel crown depending on your opinions and his cost for that. I am getting really excited about doing this, which is why I need your input to make sure I am doing the right thing...

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