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45-70 Gov. VS .338 MAG VS .300 Mag.

 
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Old 12-08-2013, 04:20 AM
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Re: 45-70 Gov. VS .338 MAG VS .300 Mag.

LOOOOONNNNNGGGGG Range Hunting!!!!

45/70 is back yard hunting! Even if the Buffalo hunters used it past 400yds! I have a 45/70 in a short Ruger #3 and I would say that 0 - 100yds it is the Moose Medicine of the cartridges you have listed. At LESS than 100 yards!

I agree with the other posts about the 30/06. Lots of good 200gr bullets that work great on game up to Moose size. Range: probably 300 yards with assured reliability, maybe more.

338? Yeah Baby!!! Big bullets, lots of speed, plenty of noise and kick! Whats not to like? The first two calibers will work in some or most situations. But the 338 WinMag covers ALL the situations.

Just my $0.02
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Old 12-08-2013, 05:51 AM
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Re: 45-70 Gov. VS .338 MAG VS .300 Mag.

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LOOOOONNNNNGGGGG Range Hunting!!!!

45/70 is back yard hunting! Even if the Buffalo hunters used it past 400yds! I have a 45/70 in a short Ruger #3 and I would say that 0 - 100yds it is the Moose Medicine of the cartridges you have listed. At LESS than 100 yards!
Does that include the 3 yards (3-5 steps) the shooter moves backwards at the shot. I like #3's. I like the 45-70, but with full house loads its the most unappealing combo I can think of pulling a trigger on.
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Old 12-08-2013, 11:43 AM
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Re: 45-70 Gov. VS .338 MAG VS .300 Mag.

HarperC:

My God who taught you how to shoot a 45/70? Don't you know to back up to the nearest tree and plant your shoulder blade firmly against the trunk? That way the tree sways and you stay in the same county. I look up to check for apples, I got knoggin'd once, because its no good having something fall on you and spoil your aim for the next shot. I'll never make THAT mistake again!!!

(The above statement is intended to interject levity into the thread and does not reflect any Polish DNA that may or may not be present in the author.)

45/70 needs a recoil pad for most people. But if you are standing it is not bad. Marlin Guide Guns w/ factory brake have a good rep for taming the recoil.

I just don't care...
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Old 12-08-2013, 10:40 PM
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Re: 45-70 Gov. VS .338 MAG VS .300 Mag.

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HarperC:


(The above statement is intended to interject levity into the thread and does not reflect any Polish DNA that may or may not be present in the author.)
As was mine.
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Old 12-09-2013, 01:48 AM
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Re: 45-70 Gov. VS .338 MAG VS .300 Mag.

Yes the web site is long range hunting but this was posted in How to Hunt Big Game. There is more to this site than just long range hunting so who cares if the question was not about looonnnnggg raaaannnngggggeeeeee hunting?
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Old 12-09-2013, 04:24 AM
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Re: 45-70 Gov. VS .338 MAG VS .300 Mag.

Red Sparky

If we didn't find the post interesting we would not have read it. But you have to admit 45/70 and long range is an oxymoron. That's what struck me as so funny! And I own a 45/70!

The OP has a valid question, but which would you choose? I go for all - around first and choose something more specialized second or even third. As such the 338 WinMag is my recommendation. But if you hunt primarily in very close quarters, and I did that very thing for two decades, the choice would be the 45/70. That is what has been my primary elk gun since 1976. I just haven't had the opportunity to hunt at longer ranges, until now. BTW Ruger #3 in 45/70 is my most favorite gun in the safe hands down. Everybody needs one IMO.

The 300 WinMag is a very good choice as an all around gun. Gophers to Moose. Not a first choice for either. My youngest son's first big game rifle is in 300 WinMag because I believe it is the best all around caliber choice today. Bar none!

Do I own a 338 WinMag? No. Because last year when I made this very same decision I chose a 375 Ruger chambered in a Savage Weather Warrior. Added a Factory installed 26" tube too. But he asked about a 338 and since I personally came within a gnat's hair of buying that very caliber, of course I'm going to recommend it. Same parameters I considered when starting my search.

But a 45/70 discussed on a Long Range Website? That's funny I don't care who you are....

P.S. The OP's three caliber choices are THE three calibers I would recommend for a three gun battery. Perfect choice to cover it all. My real advice? Get all three!
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Old 12-16-2013, 08:37 PM
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Re: 45-70 Gov. VS .338 MAG VS .300 Mag.

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I think your best bet is to use the 06 as is. It'd be big medicine for your intended use loaded with some barnes 180 gr tsx bullets. Load them yourself, or use the factory barnes vor-tx ammo. The 06 is a very versatile rd.
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As grovey and few others said. You already own a good moose gun. I'm not a fan of magnums too much noise, too much recoil and if you shoot them frequently too many folks develop a flinching problem.
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