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Old 01-21-2013, 12:17 AM
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Our military and LE have nothing to do with stupid decisions made by politicians and put their lives on the line every day. AMEN[/QUOTE]
Amen, eventually everybody has to decide. The "Molon Labe" (come get them) quote is making the rounds, sounds cool, but who do you think is going to come. It will be our friends and families, not POS politicians. I've had this conversation with young guys in my circle of friends in and out of LE, think it through, less fist pumping, some words are like bullets, and can't be called back. One of the responsibilities of old guys (a lot of those here) is getting in front of the young guys, and pulling the reins gently back, or turning 'em in a circle until the adrenaline, and testosterone are at manageable levels. My work family has had a tough few months. One son dead in Afghanistan, one LE husband shot here on the streets of Spokane, a grandparents murder suicide over health issues. Mental health issues affect somebody you know-they are rightfully frightened when taking the guns don't work the kids that are a little odd will take the hit. Look at the proposals, the least of us are being threatened do we let them take the hit this time, or do we step up for everyones rights. Sons and grandsons being medicated because they act like boys. Will you be able to pass on this tradition or do these kids become ineligible? At one point 95% of the time this is happening with out a qualified person performing an adequate evaluation. Chemical castration basically. Point being there are a ton of ways to battle that don't involve strapping an AR to your back, and parading through the mall just to prove you have a that right. There are enough dirt balls out there to deal with my, partner and I ran one out the neighbors back yard, and the neighborhood without escalating to firearms. Don't let this degenerate to the level "of just following orders" and "cold dead fingers".
If you get a chance the NRA "Life of Duty" this months feature is "Catch and release", I know the folks involved, and the show promises to be insightful.
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Old 01-21-2013, 12:36 AM
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I got into this early on and I've been very point blank in your face on many forums and with my friends and hunting buddies. Chest beating has no part in this.

Read my signature line, it says it all....

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Old 01-21-2013, 01:15 AM
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I got into this early on and I've been very point blank in your face on many forums and with my friends and hunting buddies. Chest beating has no part in this.

Read my signature line, it says it all....

Being an old fart has some advantages. You get hindsight from asinine mistakes.....
I agree with all 3. Hopefully that comes through.
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Old 01-21-2013, 01:12 PM
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"The "Molon Labe" (come get them) quote is making the rounds, sounds cool, but who do you think is going to come. It will be our friends and families."

Well at that point, I wouldn't be calling them friends or family.
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Old 01-21-2013, 02:50 PM
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I live everyday by...."God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can.....and the wisdom to know the difference".....

That applies to this and everything else discussed or will be discussed in the future.

*I cannot change whats has already been done to disparage us and what we like to do. I cannot change legislation in place. I cannot change the attitudes of anti firearms advocates....

*However I have the courage to attempt to change the opinions of those who are against us, I can attempt to change legislation already in place through peaceful means and support of organizations who have those means at their disposal.

I look at people who changed attitudes like Rosa Parks and Martin Luther King through persistent but peaceful means. Ghandi was never violent either. Today is Martin Luther King day in his memory btw.

Voilent actions will be met with violence always plus violence plays right into the hands of those who wish to malign the Constitution, which is the driving force behind all this anyway.

As firearm owners we have become pawns in a chess game thats bigger than all of us. Persist, but do it peacefully.
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Old 01-21-2013, 03:00 PM
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The "Molon Labe" (come get them) quote is making the rounds, sounds cool, but who do you think is going to come. It will be our friends and families,
All I know is what I've read, and who I know personally. To that point the sherrif in Oregon is not alone in his sentiments, we saw the same thing happen in the mid 90's when a Sheriff from Ravalli Co. Mt. told congress to take their laws and stick as he had neither the desire or manpower to enforce a law that was wrong. I know the undersheriff here on a personal level, I seriously doubt he would be part of enforcing those laws, he's a helluva good man, with a good sense of right and wrong, I don't know the Sheriff on the same level so I can't comment on his stance, I do know some other Deputies fairly well though, enough that I feel they would not be on board with enforcing Obamma's wishes. So My opinion is that here locally it would not be those that know that would be coming to my door. We do however have the largest Border patrol office in the state in town, would it be them? I can't say I know some of them as well, I do not know them well though, some by facial recognition some by first name. My daughter being part of the Boarder patrol Explores program knows most of them better, she doesn't seem to feel that they would want any part of that action.

My point is I really doubt it would be your friends or family coming, I really do believe that foreign troops would have to be called in, as those from here realize what it could quickly turn into, and nobody wants that. Politicians excluded.
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Old 01-21-2013, 03:09 PM
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"I really do believe that foreign troops would have to be called in"

I don't think they'd find the climate to their liking here.
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