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Old 09-27-2013, 10:13 AM
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Thats how it plays on the hill and never forget the NRA is also a 'big money' player. In this case, thats not all bad.

Special interest groups and professional lobbyists actually run the country and influence policy decisions, not the voters. The only thing voters are good for is paying taxes that support big politicians paychecks, they have no input and haven't had for years. It's not just the current regime.

Piss on the little people.
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Old 09-27-2013, 02:09 PM
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Well the POS senate just voted to fund Obama Care. This includes 25 POS Republican senators. They did it in a sneaky way , a vote to end the budget debate...and Reed attached funding Obama Care funding. They all knew he would.

Get your wallets out people , this is going to cost the working force a bunch. Not to mention prepare for the average life expectancy to get lower in the US.

Sad, I just can't believe this stuff. I am loosing all hope for our country.

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Old 09-27-2013, 03:19 PM
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And........Harry Reid is a life member in the NRA. I guess you can't have it all good.

I'm curious how it will impact the wife and I. We already have Government employees BCBS. I'm sure it will.

In actuality, we need some sort of institutionalized healthcare in this country. There are a whole raft of people with no health care coverage and that is a travesty in itself.

I would have preferred a single payee system like Canada instead of Obamacare which is actually Romneycare.
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instead of Obamacare which is actually Romneycare.
What??? where would you get that from? He was a governor and never a senator?

Yes, there are people with no health care, and plenty that cant afford to use the insurance they pay dearly for. But why do you think it has evolved to this?


Oh never mind...


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There are a whole raft of people with no health care coverage and that is a travesty in itself.


ok flip, I will further the debate here....

When I see the health care issue on the national ballot with the true cost of what it will cost each American,(IE: $400 per month out of your paycheck etc) and it is then voted on and passed, I will get on board. until then I will oppose it.

how is passing a law saying we the people have to buy insurance solving the health care problem? If this were the answer, we could solve homelessness tomorrow. just pass a bill that says every american must buy a home or go to jail. AJ
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Old 09-27-2013, 07:39 PM
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What??? where would you get that from? He was a governor and never a senator?

Yes, there are people with no health care, and plenty that cant afford to use the insurance they pay dearly for. But why do you think it has evolved to this?


Oh never mind...

Yes, we will mind. Don't blow me off. That pisses me off more than anything.

You obviously never followed Mitt Romney and his time in office. When he was GOVERNOR he crafted the plan that Obama used as his model for Obamacare. Obamna lacks the intellegence to craft anything except a crisis.


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There are a whole raft of people with no health care coverage and that is a travesty in itself.


ok flip, I will further the debate here....

When I see the health care issue on the national ballot with the true cost of what it will cost each American,(IE: $400 per month out of your paycheck etc) and it is then voted on and passed, I will get on board. until then I will oppose it.

how is passing a law saying we the people have to buy insurance solving the health care problem? If this were the answer, we could solve homelessness tomorrow. just pass a bill that says every american must buy a home or go to jail. AJ
To the both of you, I'm not pro Obamacare or any plan thats government mandated, however, the single payer system works in Canada quite well and it could work here if the Beltway Bozo's had half a brain.

My second comment is as long as Doctors keep driving Beemers and have summer homes in the Bahamas, healthcare won't be affordable to the masses.

You ain't gonna get squat for 400 bucks a paycheck until medical costs get reigned in, plain and simple.

My big issue with the Affordable Health care Act is it puts an extreme burden on employers and in the end will cause increasing unemployment and stagnant job creation.

The people I work for are contemplating dropping all health coverage for their 1400 employees and subsidizing part of the premium the employees will have to pay using the state run gummit mandated insurance cafeteria -plans. I never participated in their healthcare over the 28 years I've workrd there because I have better, It costs but it's better.

I feel fortunate to have good hospitalization, Government Employees BCBS but it's not free. Far from it. We pay almost $1,000.00 per month, probably a helluva lot more than most of you pay.

Would be refreshing if people figured out that professional politicians do what they damn well please with total disregard for their constitutients. Been like that for years and we just kjeep voting the idiots back in.

Go figure....

I know, Obama won a second Term but no one voted for him....... BS.

BTW, in closing my comment, John Mcain voted for the Affordable Healthcare funding this afternoon. Good old American Hero...asshat.
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Yes, we will mind. Don't blow me off. That pisses me off more than anything.
Oh, darn, double darn and a big dad nab it...... and I am so concerned about what pisses you off more than anything... I will try to do better I promise...

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