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Old 04-15-2013, 03:01 PM
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I'm about as conservative as it gets. Why do we care if psychopaths are put on a no gun list? And why do we care if we have background checks at any purchase? I don't believe in gun control but this bill isn't an instance where the gov is out stepping its bounds.

Who is going to decide who is a psychopath? Should veterans returning from Afghanistan and Iraq with PTSD be put on that list? A very slippery slope.

I care about additional background checks. I think the current requirement should be repealed. It does nothing to stop criminals or maniacs. Why make a law that does not do what it is intended to do? When a BC is made, information is recorded. That is one big reason not to have them. Another reason is it costs $$$. Someone has to pay for the system. It also costs the buyers and sellers in fees and time and inconvenience. It's also another gotchya if you screw up.... which could lead to a law abiding citizen becoming a felon because of a procedural error.

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It may not stop psychopaths but it will make a statement. If there are no guidelines for people to follow then they will lead a life with a lack of good values. Remember people are sheep. And we live in a society were people let their kids play games where they murder people but then in the same breath the parents don't offer guidance to their children. And once again if the gov doesn't enforce the laws they have in place it becomes even more of a mockery IE legalizing marijuana in some states.
You are arguing against yourself. A BC is not a guideline, it's a law and a PITA infringment to law abiding citizens. Criminals don't follow guidelines. There are already laws against crime. We don't need to make more laws for the sake of making laws just because some folks "don't care". I do care!!!
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Old 04-15-2013, 04:00 PM
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FWIW, my view of the Second Amendment. It does not give me the right to keep and bear arms in the defense of my life and property; I was born with that right, it is a basic, fundamental, inherent human right. It is not the government's to give or take.

The Second Amendment is a LIMITATION on government; it forbids it from violating my Birthright. Every thing these politicans do, is them violating natural law and the Constitution, they are the criminals.

Those convicted of a crime, having served their sentence have paid their debt and have the same natural rights to self defense as any one else; otherwise, if they're not to be trusted with a gun, they can't be trusted on the streets to begin with and should remain incarcerated.

Then if you're saying someone can't have a gun due to mental issues because they are a threat, then they are a threat period; they have no business driving cars, owning knives, axes, baseball bats, cans of gasoline, working where food is prepared, in short, they do not belong on the streets, they need to be committed; otherwise, they have a right to self defense same as any one else. Also note that the abuse of gun rights by politicians under the guise of mental illness has already begun in New York state.
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Old 04-15-2013, 10:20 PM
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Lookee here, we had workplace violence at Ft Hood when the dude yelled Alla Akbar and proceeded to slaughter Americans. Let's see, I guess we could call the Boston bombing, " Recreational Violence ".
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Old 04-15-2013, 10:29 PM
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......of course now we have had 'terrorists' blow up the Boston Marathon and the Library?

And Obummer addressed the nation this evening (I didn't watch, I was sizing brass, much more important to me than political posturing), besides, when he speaks, I cringe. He spews so much bullshit (excuse the french) he's not credible in my opinion.

Contrary to the governments position on Al Quedia, just because the head man got snuffed, it's alive and well and has been right along.

Now, if gun laws weren't so draconian out east, maybe there would have been some pro active resistance instead of mopping up after the fact.

If the central government spend as much time taking care of the business of protecting the citizens against this sort of crap unstead of posturing, it might have not occured.
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Old 04-15-2013, 11:16 PM
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Well, Kerry is worried foreign students are going to stop coming to America because they are afraid of our guns. Wouldn't it be ironic if the perp turns out to be a foreign student.
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......of course now we have had 'terrorists' blow up the Boston Marathon and the Library?

And Obummer addressed the nation this evening (I didn't watch, I was sizing brass, much more important to me than political posturing), besides, when he speaks, I cringe. He spews so much bullshit (excuse the french) he's not credible in my opinion.

Contrary to the governments position on Al Quedia, just because the head man got snuffed, it's alive and well and has been right along.

Now, if gun laws weren't so draconian out east, maybe there would have been some pro active resistance instead of mopping up after the fact.

If the central government spend as much time taking care of the business of protecting the citizens against this sort of crap unstead of posturing, it might have not
occured.
I live in MA, This bombing was an awful tragedy snd I don't know yet if any of my friends were injured. I'm hoping this wil be a wake up call to the the moron politicians in this state, and the country for that matter.There is evil in this world, and THEY can't control it or protect us from it, no matter how smart they think they are. It's up to each one of us to protect ourselves and our families.
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Old 04-15-2013, 11:30 PM
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GF..

When I think of anything east of the Delaware Water Gap, I cringe anymore. It's like the world ends at the NJ line.

We have family out there and I have no desire to visit. I scratch my head and wonder to myself just how gullible the citizens are to let mindless politicians dictate their every breath.

I'm sure the legislative flurry and posturing will follow. It always does. It placates the sheeple. Worthless platatudes with no visible result or nothing to focus those platitudes on.

Like the current assualt against the Constitution and the Second Amendment, all 'smoke and mirrors' perpetuated by politicians who are self serving and case less about their constitutients wishes.

The beat goes on................
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