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Old 01-17-2013, 11:36 AM
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I see, in the newspaper this morning, that Obama signed 'Executive Orders' concerning Firearms but none actually flies in the face of the Second Amendment and interestingly, all the 'Executive Orders' deal with laws already in place. Reminds me of our society in general today.... make a rule or regulation and don't enforce it because we don't have the manpower or it's not prudent to right now.....

The Congressional action part, Reinstituting the Assualt Wepaons Ban (of the Clinton Era) and banning the sale of magazines 10 rounds or larger has already been adjudicated as well as possession of armor piercing shells. Thats a simple matter of review and reinstatement by Congressional leaders however, the NRA and other pro firearm groups will adamately oppose that.

At this point, none of the proposals involve us in a direct manner, however, if past practice sets precident, this is only the tip of the iceberg.

I found the picture on the front page to be in very poor taste, Obama surrounded by kids from Sandy Hook. Political grandstanding at it's finest.... 'Take every advantage of a crisis for political gain', the hallmark of this administration, but Obama rebuked the NRA's web comment and ad about his kids being protected by armed guards at their school, private school I might add....

I still believe the comments on public media by Edwin Meese weighed heavily on Obama's decisions.

However, it's not over by a long shot. Obama wants nothing more that government control of everything we do or say, in essence, a socialist state.

I'm reasonably confident that steps will be taken to remove that threat and keep us all free from tyranny and opression and not to dillute or malign the very foundations and building blocks this country was built on... The Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

Raether than the end of the battle, it's the beginning, the first skirmishes in what will be the battle for our freedoms.

Never let your guard down for a second and at election time, vote for those candidates that promise to respect the Constitution and Bill of rights and never make an attermpt to compromise or take away your freedoms as citizens.

Never forget that.
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Old 01-17-2013, 01:07 PM
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OMG!!
Game on gentlemen... the govt. already has 'civil unrest holding compounds' erected in several states...

like the saying goes...

'the only requirement for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing'...

FYI.. as a side note from Afghanistan.. which is where I am right now.. do you know how the US Army is saving money over here??? BY NOT FEEDING THEIR SOLDIERS! Yep, it's true. Effective 1 Jan breakfast was stopped being served at all bases except those commanded by a general officer. So.. out here in the boonies at my little FOB we can't even get coffee in the morning. The Army decided to FIRE all night shift dining facility workers and to stop serving breakfast as a means to cut down on costs. For breakfast we have to sneak food out of the dining facility during lunch and dinner to eat the next morning.... not even coffee, man that's some crap!! I know Clinton hated the Army, seems like it's been passed down.

Doc
As promised I did fire off some letters about this Doc, this morning at 11:00 I got a phone call from my State Represenative. He told me he looked into these allegations and could find no evidence to support this, but did say if this is indeed ging on YOU need to contact your Reps. and make them aware of it. Like I said he couldn't find this taking place. I was impressed I received a phone call from him personally. I then asked him about the proposed gun bill and where he stood he does not support it nor would he vote for it. He feels as do a lot of others on the hill that mental health, and background checks should be the issue. I asked if he thought it would pass? His response NO! We will see.
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Old 01-18-2013, 01:19 AM
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Re: Firearm regulation and the Constitution

IMO, the Hoosier is a pretty progressive state (with the exception of Gary, Indiana), but thats an exception, and certainly not the norm or a true representation of the state.

I consider Indiana much more progressive than Michigan (where I reside) or Ohio and certainly light years ahead in thinking than any state east of the Delaware Water Gap.

Just ask Governor Chris Christie, his opinion.....
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Old 01-18-2013, 04:57 PM
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If we only had some wide open space, and Mts.
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Old 01-18-2013, 05:43 PM
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If we only had some wide open space, and Mts.
Exactly why it's so important that we stay vigilant about this ongoing attack on our freedom, especially as it concerns firearm ownership. Feinstein wanted to make it mandatory that if we transported any forearm across a state line, we would have to get permission from that state, in writing to do just that.

Keep in mid that Feinstein hasn't went away. Neither has Chris Christie or any of the gun rights bangers in Congress or the Senate. They are all there, waiting like vultures to pounce. Obama gave a mandate to the houses that 'we need this and we need that'. Now it's up to them because Obama realized that an Executive Order maligning the Constitution was grounds for impeachment. They can make the laws. It's up to all of us and our gun advocacy groups (who I support monetarily btw) to make sure that this travesty never occurs.

Can you imagine going out west to hunt and having to get 'permission' from each and every state you traveled through. It would never happen unless you started a year in advance requesting 'permission' and if just one state said 'no', you would be screwed.

You'd think I was having an invitation only party here at the house, I've mailed out so many letters to any and all government officials. I feel like Obama signing stuff....lol. Well, I'm like Obama in that respect, I sure as hell don't want to 'feel' like him.....
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Old 01-18-2013, 06:27 PM
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Can you imagine going out west to hunt and having to get 'permission' from each and every state you traveled through. It would never happen unless you started a year in advance requesting 'permission' and if just one state said 'no', you would be screwed.

You'd think I was having an invitation only party here at the house, I've mailed out so many letters to any and all government officials. I feel like Obama signing stuff....lol. Well, I'm like Obama in that respect, I sure as hell don't want to 'feel' like him.....
The importance of "background checks" and "permission slips" can't be emphasized enough. Look at the foot dragging going on with suppressors etc. Don't forget your County officials in this battle. Put them on the spot.

Sidecar, enough comes through I'd never mistake you for that babbling Bozo!
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Old 01-18-2013, 08:58 PM
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I'll never tell what my wife calls me.....

I'm just really intense about all this and I want everyone to never think for a second that non participation and letting someone else handle it will work because it won't.

This isn't the only forum I'm on that I'm participating in this discussion and on one there are quite a few anti-firearm participants so that ones gets a bit heated but I persist.
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