Originally Posted by TheNiner
Nothing will come of this. It just isn't feasible. Pelosi, Bloomberg and any cracked out politician that wants to disarm Americans will find nobody to do their bidding. Being l.e. I can tell ya we've debated about this heavily. None of us (midwest-you know we love our guns) would be forced to enforce an unconstitutional law. About half of us 800,000 uniformed officers in this nation are former military as well. So don't throw around the term government and lump us officers that uphold the law in that mix. I also have a hard time believing our own military would follow these orders.
It is an impossible war.
So that leaves an outside entity to do their bidding. Good luck with that.
Let's just be clear of who is the problem here. I am seeing a lot of blurring of the lines between paranoids and true Americans and people straight threatening law enforcement officers as if we are the enemy. Claiming we are militarizing our force for gun grabbing. Our equipment (armor, rifles, bearcat vehicles are entirely reactive to needs and threats to us and innocents). There is zero chance any local, county or state agency would be involved in this nonsense. If you read about a police department chief, sheriff or similar...remember they are appointed and elected and only worry about their own livelihood. You want a real answer? Ask a cop off duty and not jamming a camera in their face at their station to put on YouTube. Policy does not allow for a lot of opinion on things.
Rest assured I and my brother and sister officers who believe in our nation and our profession would toss that badge and gun back at anyone who orders us to go against the constitution.
Lets dissect this a bit more......
First off. lets go back to Hurricane Katrina. When martial law was declared, who rounded up the firearms from the citizens besides the military and National guard troops?? ...and sometimes with undue force as has been well documented on U-Tube and elsewhere.
Secondly, under the Patriot Act, foreign troops as well as the US military can be ordered to fire on US Citizens, at that point who obeys and who deserts will be on an individual basis only.
Thirdly, Foreign troops (mainly UN Peacekeepers have been training alongside US troops in exercises on domestic soil for a number of years to familiarize them with our country and topography. Thats a well known fact.
I understand your position, however, don't put forth a blanket statement that no individual in LE or the military will desert because thats not a true statement, and no, I'm not assured of anything. If the time comes, some will and some won't. Direlection of duty or disobeying a direct order or directive is punishable by dismissal in the case of LE and courts martial and even execution by the military.
Lets hope and pray it don't come to that, but at that juncture it will be on an individual basis andonly on an individual basis.