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Old 03-02-2014, 02:36 PM
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50 or even 20 years ago, the police did not look like this:
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Old 03-02-2014, 07:14 PM
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50 or even 20 years ago, the police did not look like this:
That covers it.....

Of course they weren't crusing around in MRAP's either.

I don't care for black rifles either, never have. Had a couple of those Dragunov things and sold them for a lot of money last time Obama farted....(thanx Obaba).

You can't hit beans (or a target let alone an animal with one) so I see them only as a deterrent to home invasion and a cheap way to expend cheap ammunition.

I've never understood the 'Tactical' aspect at all. I consider anything tactical to be testosterone inducing, just like the AR platform is and you won't find any in my possession and never will. Don't need a 'badass' loking rifle for hunting.

Firearm owners who court that image (black guns) are their own worst enemy. Those rifles are preceived by the public to be the ones responsible for mass killings, whether true or not, people only believe what the media tells them.

After all, look at Obama, a 2 term looser but the media loves him.....

I'll keep my bolt guns with the pretty furniture, you can keep your black guns (for now). If the current administration wins, you'll give them up and I'll most likely will keep mine......
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Old 03-02-2014, 07:30 PM
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This thread highlights the real problem. We as gun guys can't help but disagree with each other. If the anti crowd keeps picking away at the fringe and we don't all stand together we do half the work for them.

The folks that say they don't need black guns for hunting or why do you need a STANDARD capacity 30 round magazine............ The second ammendment was not intended to allow hunting.
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Old 03-02-2014, 07:39 PM
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The day WE are guided in any way by what is in the media, we will be finished.

I personally do not care for the ergonomic of the AR-15. But that does not mean that I am anti semi auto. The AR-15 just conveniently happens to "symbolize" all western made or designed semi auto rifles.

Make no error, if the assault weapons ban had passed this last year, it would have affected a lot of weapons including many with a wooden stock and low capacity magazines. That would include the Mini 14/30 amongst others. The 10 round SKS would have been on the list too.

So regardless of the icon chosen by the media, it is clear that those in power want us deprived of all means of self defense.
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Old 03-02-2014, 08:38 PM
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Re: Before Mattel

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This thread highlights the real problem. We as gun guys can't help but disagree with each other. If the anti crowd keeps picking away at the fringe and we don't all stand together we do half the work for them.

The folks that say they don't need black guns for hunting or why do you need a STANDARD capacity 30 round magazine............ The second ammendment was not intended to allow hunting.
I couldn't agree more with this statement!!

We firearms owners, no matter what type of gun you prefer, need to learn to stick together and sound like one voice. Period!

Look at any of the 'agendas' that have been pushed in recent times. Many of them, if not all, are offensive to most. Yet those proponents all stick together and worked to one end. Like it or not, WE gun owners, ALL of us, MUST learn to be one voice - without exception.

Instead of 'discussing' the merits of a MSR vs a wood stock and steel gun, we better start talking about what to do with those who betray the trust the 2A places in each of us. Yes, I said 'trust,' because we as a society should have trust in each other to use our rights and liberty's with responsibility (the part the founding fathers assumed we would all do.) Those who cross the line, betrayal through their actions, need to be called out loudly. Not just the crooks but the politicians who push these useless laws, the organizations who push the anti gun agenda, the media who delight in every instance where someone betrays us.

The Second Amendment IS about the restraint of tyranny. Hunting, personal protection, competition, or any other legitimate use of a gun by the people is secondary.

My .02 on the subject. deep breath.

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Re: Before Mattel

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The day WE are guided in any way by what is in the media, we will be finished.

I personally do not care for the ergonomic of the AR-15. But that does not mean that I am anti semi auto. The AR-15 just conveniently happens to "symbolize" all western made or designed semi auto rifles.

Make no error, if the assault weapons ban had passed this last year, it would have affected a lot of weapons including many with a wooden stock and low capacity magazines. That would include the Mini 14/30 amongst others. The 10 round SKS would have been on the list too.

So regardless of the icon chosen by the media, it is clear that those in power want us deprived of all means of self defense.
Well stated in as much as you already know what resides in my gun safe (and elsewhere)......

Having posted what I posted, I too have a gas gun or two. They have their place, just not a long range weapon in the true sense of the word. One thing I don't have or want is a 30 round magazine or even a 20. 5 or 10 is fine and most times I only load 2 rounds at a time.
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most times I only load 2 rounds at a time.
Great thing about magazines, you can always load less.
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