Long Range Hunting Online Magazine


Go Back   Long Range Hunting Online Magazine > Chatting and General Stuff > Politics Of Hunting And Guns (NOT General Politics)


Reply

Before Mattel

 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-02-2014, 10:08 AM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 15
Before Mattel

Would like to hear from some of the older members their thoughts on the present gun-grabbing. When I first started hunting, guns wore wood stocks and magazines carried 4 rounds. I understand that returning soldiers always adapt the platforms they work with daily to the civilian world. BUT, when great-grandad brought the .03 from the trenches of France and gramps returned with a Garand from Iwo, you did not have the freaks that thought they could be Rambo nor the geeks playing Special-Ops games on the internet. I think that this, along with the permissive upbringing that seems to prevail are the true problem. I shot the M-16 A1 30 some years ago in the Army and thought it a wonderful gun to shoot, so I don't necessarily hate black guns, I just don't have any use for them. Cartridge is too small for northern white-tails, 10 rounds is 9 more than I need, and even though my Encore is stainless, it wears wood. Guess my question is, how many hunters are as befuddled as I am? Know the younger crowd is going to hammer me, but I got big shoulders. thanx
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-02-2014, 10:21 AM
Gold Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Near Napoleon,MI
Posts: 997
Re: Before Mattel

So just to throw my stone in the pond, what does someone like you make of modern bolt action rifles like a tube gun ?


For defensive rifles, how about the IMI Tavor ?


The way it is packaged and the ergonomics appeal to me a lot more than the typical AR 15.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-02-2014, 11:27 AM
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Spokane, WA
Posts: 2,513
Re: Before Mattel

Quote:
Originally Posted by westcliffe01 View Post
So just to throw my stone in the pond, what does someone like you make of modern bolt action rifles like a tube gun ?


For defensive rifles, how about the IMI Tavor ?


The way it is packaged and the ergonomics appeal to me a lot more than the typical AR 15.
Perfect!

Each generation has to make it their own. If you don't like it don't do it. I'm not fond of muzzle loaders, I've never been impressed with "double ought buckshot", Remingtons are tough to love, and if nobody ever mentioned Jack O'Connor again it would please me greatly.

So what? Last time I checked Jesus didn't leave me in charge until he gets back, Mohammed wouldn't like the fact my artificial knee isn't going to hit the deck five times a day for anything, and if Moses don't want his pork chop I'll eat it too.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-02-2014, 11:52 AM
Gold Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Terre Haute In.
Posts: 696
Re: Before Mattel

Quote:
Originally Posted by adkguy View Post
Would like to hear from some of the older members their thoughts on the present gun-grabbing. When I first started hunting, guns wore wood stocks and magazines carried 4 rounds. I understand that returning soldiers always adapt the platforms they work with daily to the civilian world. BUT, when great-grandad brought the .03 from the trenches of France and gramps returned with a Garand from Iwo, you did not have the freaks that thought they could be Rambo nor the geeks playing Special-Ops games on the internet. I think that this, along with the permissive upbringing that seems to prevail are the true problem. I shot the M-16 A1 30 some years ago in the Army and thought it a wonderful gun to shoot, so I don't necessarily hate black guns, I just don't have any use for them. Cartridge is too small for northern white-tails, 10 rounds is 9 more than I need, and even though my Encore is stainless, it wears wood. Guess my question is, how many hunters are as befuddled as I am? Know the younger crowd is going to hammer me, but I got big shoulders. thanx
Sounds to me like you agree with your representatives of the state you live in, (Utopia) My suggestion would be take your garand and bullet and go hunting. My ? why are you on a long range hunting forum, as it seems you have no intention of ever shooting or hunting at any real distance.
__________________
Rick

Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-02-2014, 12:21 PM
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Frankfort, Kentucky
Posts: 314
Re: Before Mattel

Because it's raining outside and I can't work on my car, I will post up

Quote:
When I first started hunting, guns wore wood stocks and magazines carried 4 rounds.
When I started hunting guns wore wood stocks and had 30 rd magazines. Then dad bought a Dragunov stock for it, and it wore plastic and had a 30 rd magazine.
The gun was made in the late 50's.

Quote:
I understand that returning soldiers always adapt the platforms they work with daily to the civilian world. BUT, when great-grandad brought the .03 from the trenches of France and gramps returned with a Garand from Iwo, you did not have the freaks that thought they could be Rambo nor the geeks playing Special-Ops games on the internet.
I think I am confused, because I don't know of too many soldiers that have freaked out and thought they could be Rambo, which by the way came out in 1982, so you can't really attribute this kind of behaviour to "current" times.

Quote:
I don't necessarily hate black guns, I just don't have any use for them.
Some, or rather alot of people do.


Quote:
Cartridge is too small for northern white-tails,
How much do you know about the current choices for the AR-15? By referring to the Ar-15 as a cartridge, I think I can safely assume little. People have used them for deer, elk, pigs, all kinds of big game. You realize that there are loads up to .50 (3,123 ft·lbf at the muzzle) available for the Ar-15 platform? The 6.5 Grendel will stay supersonic out to 1K plus. I think it's safe to say an Ar-15 has probably killed most of everything available to hunters here, and I know of an AR-10 that went hunting in Africa.

Quote:
10 rounds is 9 more than I need,
I understand that you are hunting 1 deer. Others may be hunting or controlling 10+ coyotes, pigs, etc. in a single event, where a fast follow up shot means several less dead livestock or several hundred dollars less in crop damage, more money from a customer, more meat on the table for the family, a tournament trophy, etc.

Quote:
and even though my Encore is stainless, it wears wood.
Precision Firearms AR Wood Stocks and Forearms Kits

Quote:
Guess my question is, how many hunters are as befuddled as I am?
Yep. I understand that you don't have any use for the Modern Sporting Rifle. I hope you understand that alot of people, young and old, do. I hope even more that you don't go out of your way to show your distaste for the MSRs, especially to people that don't know about guns, just as I hope that MSR shooters don't give the bolt and single-shot owners too hard a time for owning an inferior rifle
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-02-2014, 01:15 PM
Gold Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Sagauache County, Co...3170 sq miles, not a single stop light!
Posts: 667
Re: Before Mattel

adkguy....

I don't consider myself part of the younger generation, but I do take exception to the Rambo comment.... the context in which you use it seems to suggest some "negative" connotations..... as I remember the movie, he was a returning special forces soldier that was fighting against injustices he encountered in our country/legal system.... ahhh, would that we had more people who would stand up to injustice today! We need people to stand up for what is right, especially the over-reach of our government, and if it comes to that , I darn sure don't want to be doing it with a single shot firearm. I suggest your read up on what the second amendment to our constitution is all about....it sure as hell aint about duck huntin! Your intolerance sir is dangerous. Lets stand for all the constitution, not just select parts.....AJ
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-02-2014, 02:07 PM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 15
Re: Before Mattel

Quote:
Originally Posted by rick523 View Post
Sounds to me like you agree with your representatives of the state you live in, (Utopia) My suggestion would be take your garand and bullet and go hunting. My ? why are you on a long range hunting forum, as it seems you have no intention of ever shooting or hunting at any real distance.
On this forum because I admire the people running the show. As for agreeing with King Andy and his minions, I've driven to Albany several times to protest the safe act and imagine my name is already on a lot of government sh#tlists. If not, it will be the 3rd Friday in May. I just do not see this happening if nobody had "MSR"s.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:34 AM.


Powered by vBulletin ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Management Powered by vBadvanced CMPS
All content ©2010-2014 Long Range Hunting, LLC