Re: Spotting Scope - Zeiss / Swarovski / ?
Finally got the 65mm ATM HD. Took it to the top of our local ski resort here in PA, Elk Mt. I could use a variety of expletives to describe the image quality but let's leave at this: the white neck bands on the Canadian geese on the pond about 2 miles away were clearly visible at 1 hour before dark. Unbelievable. I don't know how much brighter the 80mm would be, but I doubt it's worth the extra weight for a "hiking" scope.
I did decide to send the ATM back though to get the STM. After loading the ATM in the pack, I didn't care for the amount of space it took up.