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Old 11-30-2011, 11:51 AM
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Howdy. Well, I just took delivery of the ruger gunsite scout rifle last week being that I recently just found out they made it in left hand. Wow, it is quite the rifle.
I had been looking for a compact rifle in a good caliber for awhile---I wanted something that I could shoot a deer or elk (or man if need be) with but also light enough to pack in the field and on a horse. And I also wanted something that I could bang around the truck. The gunsite ruger fits the bill nicely. I am going to put the Burris LRS 1 X 4 cqb illuminated reticle scope on it and hopefully in the next couple of weeks take a wolf with it. I have not had the chance to shoot it yet as the burris is 30mm and am waiting for rings. I'll let you know how it shoots.

Randy
I looked at a Stainless/Walnut one at Cabela's yesterday. Beautiful gun and, contrary to some reports, the one I saw had a super smooth bolt. Judging by what I saw while I was there it's probably been pawed and cycled by half the customers that came to the gun counter. Saw a Steyr scout there too and it's a lot nicer in the hand than in pictures... but that price tag is still ridiculous. If it were close to $1000 I'd have to ponder things before buying the Ruger.

I had some gift cards to spend so I went ahead and picked a Leupy FXII 2.5x28 since I'm scheduled to pick my GSR up tomorrow. It's surprisingly bright for a 28mm objective. The glass is typical of Leupold's in in that price range and taking it out at dusk last night showed a lot of promise. A friend of mine has a VXII or III (I don't know which) but it'll be interesting to compare them side by side.

So what are the lightest quick detach rings for this thing? Talley? I can't seem to find any aluminum ones from any manufacturer.

Due to unforeseen circumstances I still have my buck tag so I'm anxious to give the scout a whirl before the season is over. I'd love to hear about how it serves on your wolf hunt too so let me know.
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Old 12-04-2011, 07:56 PM
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Re: Scouts

since you asked...I think scout rifles are just the dumbe$t things to come along since the Browning Bo$$
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Old 12-05-2011, 09:59 AM
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Re: Scouts

Hate to sound like a salesman but marketing has destroyed yet another word. Now I'm waiting for a Tactical Safari scout Rifle with an extra rail for mounting a fishing Reel. ( might not be a bad idea for a Tactical survival Safari Scout rifle) The point of a scout rifle has nothing to do with its name. If a Rifle is well suited for it's purpose call it Macaroni! My idea of a scout rifle serves a very good purpose that can not be replaced by something largely different. If a person only has 1 tool in their tool box, a crescent wrench is an outstanding choice. Now for the Salesman part, it is about features that provide me a benefit as a hunter and having more than 1 tool in the tool box!
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Old 12-05-2011, 02:47 PM
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Re: Scouts

silvertip: Are you sure the scout concept didn't come first? I agree with you about the BOSS. I had one and it didn't seem to make any difference.

Ken Snyder: I'm sorry but I didn't exactly follow your post. I think you had a pretty good point about the general purpose/practical rifle/scout idea in relation to marketing but I'm not 100% sure what you were trying to say. Interestingly Cooper wasn't sold on the forward mounted scope as being a must have. Some of his "scouts" had a traditional scope. Being a bolt action, lightweight, and short enough not to get snagged on stuff were much more important to him. Most "sheep" rifles qualify according to his actual writings unless they're really long. Which isn't as big of a deal IMO.

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Here are my thoughts on the Ruger Gunsite Scout after putting 70 rounds through it, carrying it for 3 days around the ranch, and hunting with it a few times.

The ergonomics are excellent. I guess that's to be expected but this is my first time messing with a Mauser-ish action of any sort (one of the reasons I wanted to try this gun out actually). Not having a scope over the action is nice if you like to shoot and play as much as I do because there's no way to pinch ones fingers between the scope and bolt handle.

The magazine release is very convenient but for hunting I'm replacing the goofy 10 round mag with a 3 round polymer magazine. This is for legality, weight, and ease of carry. Plus the ability to top it off I guess. When it's riding around in the truck it'll keep the 10 round setup for hogs and organization.

Accuracy is fine for a sub-600 yard gun but I could use some more practice shooting with a sling. At some point I'll put my bipod on it and see how it goes but right now I'm getting 1.5-2 MOA groups at 100 yards with Federal factory loads and a sling. All things considered I'm pretty happy with that really.

As far as it being a crescent wrench: it shoots as well as most guns out there (if not better) and has the bonus of having excellent iron sights on it. The forward mounted scope doesn't seem to be effecting accuracy at all. It makes for a great general purpose hunting rifle and I like it much better than the .243 Browning A-bolt it replaced (which ironically enough is the gun that had one of those worthless BOSS systems on it).

I haven't found the forward mounted scope to be awkward at all. You still go for a good consistent cheek weld, put the cross hairs on the target, and squeeze. The difference is it's easier to see the scope coming up in ones peripheral vision and line things up quickly. The handling benefits are there too but are secondary IMO - at least on a rifle with easily swapped magazines. I think a lot of people just don't like things that are different than what they're used to but next year (after my firearm allowance resets ) I'd like to try a high end 1-4 in a reversed Larue mount on it.

The good news is the Ruger can easily be setup however-which-way one wants and even comes with traditional mounts in the box. And that's what's so great - it's an excellent platform to work off of due to all the options afforded the end user.

I ended up going with alloy TPS rings btw. They seem to be excellent and, according to the guys at SWFA, they have been (or are) making the rings for Badger Ordinance. No lapping was required and they're pretty stinkin' light.

Next on the list is a thread protector to get rid of that goofy flash hider.
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Old 12-11-2011, 11:21 PM
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Re: Scouts

As a handy carbine and intermediate range rifle I like my Ruger Scout.

As for the forward mounted optics, no thanks. I played with, and shot, my Scout for a year. If I was going to use a red dot optic then I'd place it in the forward position but with a scope I'll go traditional.

I've found that while a forward mounted scope can be fast to get sight acquisition, if the sun is behind you you may not be acquisitioning anything. For fast shots at moving targets within reasonable ranges the concept has a lot of merit though, providing the sun cooperates.

I think the biggest boon, and detriment, to the Scout concept is the non-traditional optic configuration. Iron sights on a bolt? The Gunsite Scout is A+. Forward mounted optics? F- in my opinion. Iron sights? A. Ability to configure the rifle to your sighting needs? A+++.

If the scout configuration works for you, go for it. Me, I'm taking the rail off, plugging the holes in the barrel, that hold the rail on, and mounting a traditional 3-9 x 40. If the scope breaks I'll take it off and screw the rear sight back on. It's a handy little carbine but too much has been made of the forward optic, which is not even necessary to be a scout rifle in my opinion, and it doesn't really do anything great but does do OK for a lot of things. In short it's a good "general purpose" rifle that excells at no one task but is passable for many.

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Old 12-31-2011, 02:16 PM
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Re: Scouts

I built one up on a M96 in 6.5x55 a number of years ago, it is not so much a long range gun. I put a 2x pistol scope on it, it will shoot 2in at 200 meters from a rest. I use it for hunting in heavy timber for deer, elk and coyotes. Above timberline I will not shoot over 300yds with it. I didn't put the ghost ring or open sights on it. I have never broken a scope while hunting yet. I love being able to leave both eyes open and getting on target fast. Give it a try, if you don't like it, change it or sell it.....
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Old 01-01-2012, 04:10 AM
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Re: Scouts

I bought this old sweede many years ago for the action but made the mistake of shooting it first. It shot way better than expected as the bore looks very rough. Was thinking of putting a scout scope setup on it but the original millitary sights work good enough for 300 yard shots. The trigger has a god awfull lot of creep but does let you know when its gonna go off.
Long way around the barn here but long story short its a great truck/rivene gun that flat out works!!


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