Originally Posted by HellsCanyonArmory
That is the truth right there... I still have a few lbs of weight to shave off my pack setup system! Not everyone does the backpacking thing and having a 12 lb+ rifle hanging off a sling isn't always the most comfortable way to hunt all day away from the pickup for some. I know that aside from this forum, most of the other hunting forums I'm on when they hear about building a "lightweight long range hunting rifle" they think it should weight in at 7-8 lbs scoped... Its much easier to convince those just getting into the sport to buy a 9-10 lb rifle than a 12 lb rifle.
Here is the thing. To cut 2-3 pounds off of a custom rifle costs about $1000-2000. not cheap. very light weight rifles limit their ability to be shot well at any distance beyond 300 yards (not impossible). to drop 2-3 pounds off of most camping gear (going from OK to good...like cabelas stuff to mountain hardware) is about $600. lots cheaper. My complaint is in the backpacks. If I could get Eberlestock to redesign there J107 Dragonfly to save 2-3 lbs I would be golden.
Remember when you weight your backpacking setup you need to weight it in 3 ways:
1. pack and all other gear minus rifle, ammo, water, food and fuel
2. pack with all thats in #1 including rifle and ammo
3. all the stuff in #1
here is my setup:
Eberlestock J107 Dragonfly (top fanny pack removed)
Eberlestock pack rain cover
Mountain hardware phantom 32* bag
Exped UL med sleeping pad (15.5 oz)
Sierra Designs Mojo 3 tent (4LB max) or my UL bivy with face pole (16 oz)
Snow Peak titanium cookset 28 oz pot and lid (only 3 oz)
MSR water filter (14oz)
48oz nalgene bottle
100oz camelback bladder
Med kit with extra survival stuff and batteries ( this is my item thats kind of heavy but after a lot of military training its difficult to leave behind) 3lbs
misc stuff (binos, spotting scope, tripod bipod clothes etc)
my gun will weight 9.4lbs all up when Im done in a month or so. its a 7 LRM and has a 6-24 vortex viper pst on it and a 27" barrel.
If I could cut weight it would be in my pack. my setup weighs in at about 50lbs with gun, ammo, all the stuff from #3 above with food for 8 days. not bad if you ask me. the expendables (food, water, fuel) weigh about 20 lbs of this. not bad.