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Old 07-06-2011, 07:13 AM
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Re: Outdoorsmans tripod on 85mm spotter?

There is an easy way to compare the stability of the pistol grip vs the Jim White head. I learned it from my experience of evaluating tripod heads for use with a long and heavy $9,000 Nikon telephoto lens for my $5,000 camera.

While the spotting scope is mounted and you are viewing a distant object, tap your index finger lightly against the forward portion of the scope.

This will introduce a certain amount of image jiggle. Compare the amount induced with each of the mounting systems.

The Jim White is an obvious winner in my actual test.
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Old 07-06-2011, 10:36 AM
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Re: Outdoorsmans tripod on 85mm spotter?

I've already decided on a package with the JW-head.

Had a gearbox-breakdown on my car, so have to wait a couple of months with purchase to see how expensive it all turns out to be..

Want a 65mm 25-50x65mm HD now that is considerably lighter than the 85mm one.

Do you think the smallest tripod model would be useful?
The spotter is angled, 'cause I'll be Spotting upwards at a 30+ deegre of angle.
I could live with a solution were I lie down to spot upwards, but still beeing able to sit when Spotting at animals at the same height or lower. Would the smallest tripod with JW head fit the bill, or too unstable compared to medium height?
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Old 07-21-2011, 12:28 PM
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Light spotter for swaro ATS HD 65mm?

I just got a second-hand swaro ATS HD 65mm in excellent condition for a fair price - lighter tripod next!

I've had a look around for lighter tripods as my hunting will be primarily backpackhunts alone.

Has anyone tried the Slik 613 CF on a similar spotter? Steady enough?
I thought of mounting the JW head on that tripod.. any other suggestions?
I'd very much like to save the extra 0,8 lb from the outdoorsmans medium if able to...

A third option would be the Vortex High counry tripod kit. athough, I'd rather have the tripod with a JW head in stead of the head that comes with it... Does anyone know who produces that light tripod for Vortex? This package included JW is considerably cheaper, and about 22oz heavier, than the Slik+JW.
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Old 07-21-2011, 12:48 PM
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Re: Outdoorsmans tripod on 85mm spotter?

I have K&K outdoors tripod and its great... light and tough. I highly recommend the outdoordsmans pistol grip... that is what i will upgrade to
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Old 07-21-2011, 01:38 PM
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Re: Light spotter for swaro ATS HD 65mm?

[QUOTE=Villreinjeger;528694]I just got a second-hand swaro ATS HD 65mm in
Has anyone tried the Slik 613 CF on a similar spotter? Steady enough?
I thought of mounting the JW head on that tripod.. any other suggestions?
I'd very much like to save the extra 0,8 lb from the outdoorsmans medium if able to...

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I use a slik 714cf, a few of my buddies use 613cfs. They both work well. The 613s arent tall enough to stand and glass. My 714 is, but it is quite a bit heavier however. The Jim White head is a very well built head. I don't like them because I can't run one very well. I prefer pan heads. If you are fine with the way the JW operates it is tough to beat. I prefer the 700rc2 heads. The outdoorsmans pan heads are nice, but not 3x nicer then the 700rc2 for my money. The long handle on the 700rc2 works well for spotters and video. I cant imagine using a pistol grip for a spotter. A pistol grip head is useless for me, with 15x or spotters. Besides that I feel like smackin guys who are glassin with pistol grips besides me. I can only take so much of "click click" every few seconds, amybe I'm easily aggrivated, but that "click click" is worse than nails on a chalk board for me.
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Old 07-21-2011, 02:09 PM
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Re: Outdoorsmans tripod on 85mm spotter?

I know exactly what your talking about! Clicking can be pretty annoying.. Same goes with some who click their pen time and again... Next time I hear that in one of my meetings I'll ask the person wether I'm boring him.. ;)


I'm willing to pay up a bit if I can save som considerable weight. I'd save heaps by getting a ligheter backpack - however my framed backpack is very durable and can take a heck of a lot of weight before it turn uncomfortable, which it does, taking the meat out. Freely moving hipbelt as walk aso too.. Weighs about 10lb.... Might seems ridiculous to save ozes when i have such a backpack, but that's how it's going to be.. it has to withstand the gorillas at the the airport fully loaded woth gear..

Would the shortest outdoorsman be sufficient for that particular spotter? I do not mind lying down when spotting or put it on top of a boulder.

Has anyone tried the Vortex tripod? That's the lightest so far - with the JW head...
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Old 07-21-2011, 02:58 PM
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Re: Outdoorsmans tripod on 85mm spotter?

The outdoorsmans are great legs. Not sure where you are located though. Otdoorsmans (in north Phoenix) will go though and clean your tripod legs and get them running like new for nothing, kinda difficult if your not in AZ.

I understand your thoughts on weight. If im helping, not trigger man, I usually haul my slik 714cf and a bogen 301BN both with 700rc2 heads. That bogen works well, but man is it heavy. I think you would be happy with the 613cf or outdoorsmans. I'd prefer the slik, just because the outdoorsmans are limited in height, I think most are 2 piece legs, or the ones that I've used are. I'm not sure which is lighter.

I know guys who swear by the slik cf, outdoorsmans, or the bogen cf($$$). Those good sets of legs are pretty much interchangable. None of the guys I know would refuse to use any of those. The 613 slik is prettsmall when folded up. Its hard to explain, but they take up very little room. Most of the time with spotters you want the tripod as low as possible on your tripod to minimize wobble. That's one of the reasons I prefer angled. You gould get away with a pretty short set of legs for long trips. I prefer the taller legs. I use them as shooting sticks or to video to to have the 15x's and spotter out at the same time. I have considered buying a set of 613cf legs for a light weight set for long trips many times.
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