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Old 08-31-2008, 11:24 PM
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Kimber 84m Montana ?

Any of you backpackers have any expierence with them ?

The little 7-08 @ 5lb 2oz looks very nice ,it will be used for wilderness area mule deer/black bear hunting.
I've read all i can find over @ 24hr campfire and i think the kimber is my favorite =made in the USA etc..
Add 3x9-40 zeiss conquest w/ turrets----- would make a nice walking outfit more-so if you had a big buck boned out in your backpack.
Appreciate any info --Mike
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Old 09-01-2008, 07:06 AM
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Re: Kimber 84m Montana ?

They are nice, look great, feel great, and the light weight is awesome


Problem is that accuracy problems from the factory are very common it seems - bad bedding and bad crowns seem to be the most common suspects.
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Old 09-01-2008, 10:23 AM
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Re: Kimber 84m Montana ?

After reading all the threads i could find over at 24hr campfire [kimber cult] i believe ''you hear bad news -over good news''.
There are a few people who said themselves -they had a kimber liteweight rifle and ''thought'' it was not accurate ,then after listening to others who had mastered shooting them -they learned how to hold and handle them better.
One guy thought he had a dud and sent it back to kimber -they shot it and sent it back w/a proof target of its accuracy capabilities[three -three shot groups that averaged .7"].
He spoke w/kimber and someone there gave him a few tips he tried when he received the rifle back --he immediately shrank his groups to inside an inch.
The main problem is you can't let them free recoil without getting high flyers -or so i've read.

I have seen several pictures of rauchy bedding but no pictures of bad crowns -poor crowns happen -i just haven't seen pictures.They use a slave action to bed all the rifles -they do not bed each rifle with ''its'' action ,so that isn't really a true bedding job -but better than nothing at all.

Many people have kimbers that shoot 1/2" three shot groups -they get fired up when someone goes out buys a kimber in 300wsm shoots a 2" group w/ factory ammo -then crap talks kimber accuracy.

The 'learning' how to shoot a particular rifle reminds me of when i bought my pellet rifle -a gamo cfx royale -fixed barrel -1000fps .I bought an assortment of pellets to see which ones it liked -it didn't like anything -shot 4-5" groups at 30yds.
I thought -what a POS -did some reading and read that magnum spring air pellet rifles did not shoot well off of a rest -i tried their method of holding the pellet rifle ''buttery soft'' just let it lay in your hands and when the spring reacts pay attention to which way it recoils and correct the aiming point.
Immediately it started shooting dime size groups -i would lay my wrist over front and rear sand bags to be as steady as possible -then when i got over the idea that i needed a pellet shaped like a bullet and went to the heavy flat-nose target pellets i could literally shoot pellets into the same hole at 30yds.5-6 shots would make a hole the size of a pencil eraser -kills ground squirrels at 80yds and sounds like someone sneezed when fired.

Anyway i'm a believer that sometimes you have to change what you've 'always' did sometimes.
Also every manufacturer sends out a dud now and then but wanted to hear from people on this board w/ kimber opinions/expierence.Thanks -Mike
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Old 09-01-2008, 02:51 PM
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Re: Kimber 84m Montana ?

My comment was based on the experiences of 6 people I know with kimber rifles, only two of those shot well out of the box, the others required some work... this is 4 montanas, 1 provarmint and 1 od the classic? model

I was very interested in buying one at one stage, they are really nice rifles
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Old 09-01-2008, 08:10 PM
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Re: Kimber 84m Montana ?

I've read the stock design is great on the montana -the recoil sopposedly isn't felt nearly as much as you'd think.

Have you shot one of them Petenz ? or do your friends feel that way about the recoil ?

I just read today on 24hr campfire -a guy bought a 338 federal =308 necked up to 338 -lots of BIG problems -the firing pin wasn't set up right and did not hit the primer hard enough to fire consistantly.
And the chamber was rough as a cobb -with stuff like this happening enough to nearly keep threads going about kimbers -i have to say they must feel powerful good -must put a guy under a spell or something.
If rem/chesters etc. were coming down the pike like this -NOBODY- would buy one.
Did your buddies tinker w/ their rifles or have to send them back ?

I have had to tinker w/every remington i've ever owned and only had one that couldn't be tuned up enough to suit me w/ the factory barrel.

I have no problem rebedding a kimber and polishing a crown -but big stuff like the faulty firing pin/rough chamber would tick me off.
Thanks for your time -Mike

Forgot to say -i thought about building a lightweight but i'd have way more in it than the montana and probably no lighter.
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Old 09-01-2008, 08:26 PM
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Re: Kimber 84m Montana ?

I've shot one in .260 which is hardly a kicker, but it was very soft to shoot

As I recall, one guy sold the rifle because he couldn't get it to shoot no matter what he did, the others mucked around and got them shooting.


Personally I went with building a rifle on a remmy model 7 action, with high tech specialties stock and custom barrel... all up it's going to cost me a little more than a kimber I guess but it's made to my specs in a calibre you can't get a Kimber in.

If they ever sort out their apparent QC issues I would not object to buying a Montana in .260, they are a beautiful little rifle and once sorted, they do shoot well, my mates pro-varmint shoots 1/4MOA
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Old 09-01-2008, 09:36 PM
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Re: Kimber 84m Montana ?

I own 2 of the 8400's, one classic in a 300 WSM, and a montana in a 325 WSM. Both shoot about 3/4 MOA with full velocity loads, although one did take a little work I am happy with these 2 factory rifles. I have 2 friends that have the 300WSM in the classic's and one shoots about like mine and the other not so well, but he hasn't worked with it as much as I would of.

Recoil is not bad at all with the 300 and 180gr bullets, the 325 is a little stout with the 200 gr but is very manageable.

My montana weights under 7lbs with 2.5-8x36 vari-x 3 and full magazine and is a real pleasure to pack into the backcoutry. You can carry these kimbers in rough elk country for a week and it doesn't wear you down like a heavier rifle does. If one wasn't into spending a ton of money on a custom lightweight mountain rifle the kimber 8400 would be my pick for sure.

By the way the montana is for sale on the "gun for sale" page.

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