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Old 04-30-2014, 10:52 AM
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Shotgun choice

I am currently looking for a shotgun, I have the brand all figured out I want a win sx3. I have a couple questions for the seasoned snow, and honker guys. I was thinking of getting a 3" chamber with 28" tube. Is the 26" plenty or 3.5" with 28" or 26". It will be used mostly waterfoul and the ocassional turkey and pheasant hunt.
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Old 04-30-2014, 10:59 AM
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Re: Shotgun choice

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I am currently looking for a shotgun, I have the brand all figured out I want a win sx3. I have a couple questions for the seasoned snow, and honker guys. I was thinking of getting a 3" chamber with 28" tube. Is the 26" plenty or 3.5" with 28" or 26". It will be used mostly waterfoul and the ocassional turkey and pheasant hunt.
The 3" used to be plenty when you could use lead shot. now that we have to use steel I recommend a 3 1/2" for turkeys and geese. If you want to use it for pheasant and ducks you can shoot 3" shells.

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Old 04-30-2014, 11:11 AM
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Re: Shotgun choice

Ok. I wasn't sure if a person was going to have issues with 2 3/4" or 3" shells with the 3 1/2" chamber.
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Old 04-30-2014, 02:29 PM
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Some 3.5guns are nortirous for not shooting some of other options. My buddy has an 11/87 in 3.5. Even with hotter 2.75's that thing was a jamomatic. He made a pheasant hunt miserable with all his screaming everybody stop while he kept trying to get it working. We bought one of the 3.5 silver's last year cheap on clearance for my wife to try trap with me. (Figured new goose gun for me too. That gun has cycled everything we have put through it including the factory low recoils and my reloaded version of a low recoil. My guess the Winchester will eat it all too. Depending on weight (gun being too light) they say the 3.5's can be harsh on the shoulder. I have a new A5 and really like it. I looked into getting another in 3.5 down the road but hearing all the reviews it kicked like a mule with the 3.5's changed my mind quickly. I'll stick with my 2.75 gun and use the silver if I really need to use a 3.5 inch shell.
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Old 04-30-2014, 02:36 PM
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Re: Shotgun choice

Ok well than I might as well get a 3 1/2 gun, then my options for ammo are wide open. Now my last question. Would I ever notice the diffrence in performance from the 26 to 28 inch barrels.
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Old 04-30-2014, 03:50 PM
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I have always been a 26inch type guy. Up until an adult I always had those cheap antiquated on last leg Sears or Monkey Ward tanks of a shotgun with a 30 inch barrel. The first time I held a 26 inch I was in heaven. That being said I have never been happy with performace waterfowl wise and 26/steel shot. Keep in mind I was using lead as a kid with a fixed choke and in heaven shooting waterfowl. I stopped for a lot of years because those tanks I had sucked with steel and I couldn't afford a new gun. I don't have much expereince with modern steel. When a buddy first switched to 3.5 he gave me cases of 2.75 in steel. I see why he said he was never going back. I never had great perforamce out of any of shells he gave me. But I know guides who swear by even the cheaper modern steel and right after market choke. No thanks I'll take every advantage I can get now.
Now all I use is Heavy shot, the mixes or similar. My main hunting has always been pheasant (5 days a week and almost entire season) and a 26 worked well for me.
That being said If I wanted a gun that I was going to use for waterfowl I'd get a 28 inch barrel. We just went through this decision with wife when she decided she wanted a 20 guage and better fitting gun. Those 30 inch barrels rule the 27 yard line at my club. It kind if opened my eyes to longer barrels. In the USA her Beretta xplor was only offered in 26/28 so we went with a 28. If after we move I can get more waterfowl hunting be it local or hunting trips I'll be getting a 28 inch for the silver.
The other thing I'd point out is those 3.5 can really pattern differently then 2.75 and 3's so make sure do some pattern work. I was getting really bad patterns with the A5's DS factory chokes with steel or heavy shot but decent with lead. I went with an aftermarket choke which solved my problem. Patterning the 3.5 with 3.5's is next on my list. I did a lot of research about it. Ive always had good luck with factory invector plus chokes on other shotguns I owned that had em. So the DS came as a shock to me being Bronwings latest and greatest. They are way off from what standard chokes are siE why and suspected the issue. I was shocked when I finall miced em, differnt then what other have posted as well. I have read Beretta was usally one of best for OEM chokes. When I started patterning wife's gun I was disappointed how horrible the patterns were. Big holes everywhere and a sloppy pattern. Its one of those only way to know is put it on paper. There's some good articles about 3.5 and chokes why and what happens. Off top of head I don't recall but it was more of what's best choke to use depending on laod/size of shot for 3.5, They weren't pushing for aftermakert either just an explanation.
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Old 04-30-2014, 09:31 PM
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Re: Shotgun choice

I bought a Berretta Extreama in 3 1/2" because it was purpose built for the 3 1/2'' shells(Bigger receiver) and not a 3" stretched to 3 1/2".

Most auto shotguns have to be adjusted for the shells to be used by changing the recoil springs or
reversing the gas piston. The Beretta shoots everything from the 1 Oz 2&3/4" to the 2&1/4 Oz 3&1/2s without any changes to the shotgun.

The main thing I like about the 3&1/2" is the range it has. the turkey we have are hunted hard and they have gotten smart, they will hang up around 50 to 60 yards and the 3&1/2 " with 2 1/4 oz of
lead are perfect for these kinds of shots.

It is the closets thing to a one shotgun for everything I have found. Although,for Teal and doves it is a little clumsy because of the size and length.

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