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Unread 03-21-2010, 06:28 AM
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Re: 284 Jazz

Me like...


I guess I will have to start bugging Nate....I hope I am moving to the top of the list.

I like everything about the rifle except I would get the barrel and action black.

The stock is exactly the same color scheme I was thinking of getting....I wanted something to match sage-brush pattern of Southern Sask. Prairies.

Interesting choice in Muzzle-Brake why did you go for that style vs. his more "streamlined one"? or was that Nate's choice?


Looks great and anxiously awaiting range report....
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Unread 03-21-2010, 08:16 AM
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Re: 284 Jazz

With the mini-extreme break it sucks up almost all recoil so anybody can shoot it. It also looks pretty cool I think. The Defiance action is really smoooooooooooooooth!




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Unread 03-21-2010, 08:20 AM
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Re: 284 Jazz

Brent or Nate,
As usual, that is another incredible rig produced by Nate! Other than better brass, what advantages are you looking for over the 7 Ultra Mag? Speed? Accuracy? Barrel life? What fire forming is necessary? Is fire formed brass a possibility from SSG? I am looking forward to the range results.
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Jett
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Unread 03-21-2010, 08:45 AM
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Re: 284 Jazz

I'm not Brent or Nate, but will throw my 2 cents in here.
Advantages are as follows:
-Better brass. The 338 Norma brass(parent case) is top notch, tough as hell, on par with Lapua brass in my opinion. Norma pulled out all the stops when making this brass.
- COAL. The COAL length of this caliber along with other wildcats(300 JAZZ) based on the 338 Norma parent case allow the use of longer VLD bullets to be used in a standard 3.60 mag design, unlike the Lapua case which requires a longer COAL in order to not set the bullet in powder colume.
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Unread 03-21-2010, 08:54 AM
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Re: 284 Jazz

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Originally Posted by trueblue View Post
I'm not Brent or Nate, but will throw my 2 cents in here.
Advantages are as follows:
-Better brass. The 338 Norma brass(parent case) is top notch, tough as hell, on par with Lapua brass in my opinion. Norma pulled out all the stops when making this brass.
- COAL. The COAL length of this caliber along with other wildcats(300 JAZZ) based on the 338 Norma parent case allow the use of longer VLD bullets to be used in a standard 3.60 mag design, unlike the Lapua case which requires a longer COAL in order to not set the bullet in powder colume.
Perfect answer....and you beat me too it.

Although I have heard Norma brass is a little on the soft side, but IIRC Nate says he is getting multiple loadings on the brass so it is all good.
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Unread 03-22-2010, 11:17 PM
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Re: 284 Jazz

There is a valid debate on the value of weight sorting, as what we care about as precision shooters in the consistency of the volume of the brass.......


But here's the results I saw with 50 randon pieces of brass from lots of 100 from 3 different calibers/mfgs of brass. Yes, I weighed 150 pieces of brass:(

338 Norma
Avg case weight=313.6 grains
Case weight SD=.2 grains
Case weight ES=.4 grains

338 Lapua
Avg case weight=326.9
Case weight SD=.6 grains
Case weight ES=.7 grains

338-378 Wby
Avg case weight=321.6 grains
Case weight SD=1.3 grains
Case weight ES=3.2 grains

What does it mean? It wasn't a lab grade scale, so the scale could have drifted some during the "test", but it indicated to me the 338 Norma brass might be consistent
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Unread 03-24-2010, 05:21 AM
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Re: 284 Jazz

Wow!!! Nate sure builds really nice and accurate rifles. I can't wait to hear about the range results.
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