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Old 02-07-2010, 01:30 AM
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Re: Optimizing Precision And Accuracy From VLD Bullets By Eric Stecker

Good article, thanks for posting. I'm going to have to give the sweet spot setup a shot and see what happens.
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Old 10-29-2010, 03:01 PM
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Re: Optimizing Precision And Accuracy From VLD Bullets By Eric Stecker

Guys,

Any findings you would like to share regarding this new technique to find best accuracy with Berger VLD's?
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Re: Optimizing Precision And Accuracy From VLD Bullets By Eric Stecker

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FIRST OF ALL i'D LIKE TO THANK ERIC AND BRYAN FOR ALL OF THEIR INPUT AND REPLIES TO QUESTIONS AND ISSUES. I AM PRESENTLY SHOOTING A SUPER ACCURATE 300 ULTRA MAG AND HAVE INTENTIONS OF USING YOUR 168 VLD HUNTING BULLET. AS I UNDERSTAND IT, MY RIFLE IS FREE BORED, JUST AS THE WEATHERBYS ARE. THAT BEING SAID, THE OGIVE OF THE BULLET IS QUITE FAR FROM THE RIFLINGS TO BEGIN WITH. I UNDERSTAND THE SWEET SPOT SETTINGS, AND UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A SECANT OGIVE. SO I GUESS THAT MY QUESTION IS, DO I START FROM MAX BOX LENGTH AND WORK BACK IN THE INTERVALS STATED IN THE OPTIMIZATION ARTICLE, OR DO YOU FEEL THAT MY OPTIMUM WILL BE AT MAX LENGTH. I HOPE THIS IS NOT A COMPLEX ISSUE TO CONSIDER. I'M SURE THAT MAX LENGTH WILL PROBABLY BE THE DEAL.
Hello all...new to site and in searching older articles, found this one....can anyone tell me if this particular question was answered? I am wanting to switch to the Berger's but this is the exact dilema i have too.

Thanks. Steven
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Old 11-13-2010, 05:56 PM
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Re: Optimizing Precision And Accuracy From VLD Bullets By Eric Stecker

I can't share with you personal experience with a long throated rifle but I can relay some thoughts to consider. First, you have to decide if you are willing to single feed your ammo or use the magazine. If you are going to single feed the ammo your COAL can be much longer. You may find that your throat is long enough that even by single feeding you are still unable to get near the rifling. This is something that will be specific to your rifle but that still does not mean that the 4 COAL test won't work.

If you decide that you want to feed your ammo through the magazine then the distance to the rifling is less relevant. Your COAL will be limited by your magazine (no surprise to anyone there). This brings me to what I believe to be true for both situations.

The reports that we are getting show that each rifle has a sweet spot within the .150 range. We've focused on this range being near or touching the rifling because frankly this is what we are used to. There is a strongly likelihood that this range can be well away from the rifling and still include a sweet spot.

I will be very interested to hear the results from someone who tries this in a long throated rifle. I believe this can also be tried in a short throated rifle but using the maximum allowable COAL that will feed through a magazine as your "longest" measurement starting point. If anyone has a chance to give this a try I will be very interested to learn the results.

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Old 11-13-2010, 09:31 PM
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Re: Optimizing Precision And Accuracy From VLD Bullets By Eric Stecker

Thanks Eric.......when I get some free time and some Berger's I'll try this out.

Steven
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Re: Optimizing Precision And Accuracy From VLD Bullets By Eric Stecker

I guess I'm the strange guy in the room. I shoot a 300 win. mag. and I use the 168 grain VLD. I started out with this bullet and some H-4831 powder and slowly worked my way up the grain scale until I hit 3350 FPS. I shoot the Remington Sendero so I am able to seat the bullet just off the lands, and man is this thing a tack driver. This is by far the most accurate rifle I have ever owned, using this load. I have never had my bullet exit an animal, its total destruction inside, not a real great meat saver, but I haven't had to track anything either. My first kill was a Colorado mule deer at 400 yards, I could not believe how fast he dropped. The second was a bull elk at 700 yards and he went down so fast I thought I had lost him. I have killed deer from 75 yards out to 500 and shot elk from 100 yards to 700, all went down on the spot but I have never seen an exit wound. I'm not sure if its the small bullet at this velocity that causes no exit, but man do I love it.
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Old 08-23-2011, 11:07 PM
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Re: Optimizing Precision And Accuracy From VLD Bullets By Eric Stecker

I also shoot 168gr Berger hunting VLD's, but in a 7mm magnum. I dropped a cow elk last season at about 185 yards. She went about 30 feet, dropped, and did not get back up. When we got there, there was a neat entry hole but no exit hole. And no blood.

The rifle was a Weatherby Vanguard. During practice, the best I could do with the Bergers was 1.35 MOA. I thought it was the rifle because I have been able to dial in all my other rifles at less than 1 MOA. It was good enough for minute of elk, though, so I went hunting.

I am comfortable shooting the bergers out to about 400 yards. I would like to get out further so I was glad to see this article. I will do these tests and see if I can get sub MOA out of the 7mm.
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