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Making A Case For The 308 Winchester By Michael Eichelle

 
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Old 03-03-2011, 02:35 PM
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Re: Making A Case For The 308 Winchester By Michael Eichelle

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My opinion on the 168 SMK for elk is not good. My top picks for a 400 yard elk load would be the 165-180 ACCUBONDS, 200 SGK, 168 Barnes or similar bullets. When the new Barnes 175 LRX hits the scene, I think that will be tough to beat.

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Thank you for your response Michael. You have helped me out a bunch. I will look into your helpful hints.
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Old 03-07-2011, 11:09 PM
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Re: Making A Case For The 308 Winchester By Michael Eichelle

You knew it would happen so here is the dud post for this thread. I own a Rem Model 40 SSA in 308. A friend bought it for me to shoot feral hogs with. I was using a SKS and was loving it. I did not especially want a 308 but that is what he bought. I normally shoot an average of 12 hogs a week, sometimes 40 in one week and sometimes none for the week. I don't shoot deer, I don't shoot elk, moose, bear or anything else but varmints and hogs. I've shot 180, 165 and 150 grain bullets of every manufacture and my little gun would group them at about an inch at 100 yards. Not shabby but not extra spiffy either. I did not like any of the above bullets for what I do. I shoot 98% of my hogs on the run out of a pickup window (both sides) and you never seem to get the stock in the right position to avoid a painful kick. I've wore the internet out looking for something better and after reading how sorry the 125 grain Nosler BT's were I had to try them. My little rifle loved them at 2900 fps and would group three shots at .19 with anybodys and everybodys brass or a mix anytime of the day. The little Nosler shoots faster, flatter and with less recoil than anything else I've tried in 30 cal. The hogs loved them too! Some shots don't go all the way through and that's what I wanted. Nothing sounds better than rolling a 300 pound plus boar over and hearing that sloshing sound. I've shot them from 25 feet to 300 or more yards broadside, shots at angle, length wise front and back with the same results.

Everyone told me the 308 would be versatile and inherently accurate and they were right and I could not be happier about it! Some friends are just worth keeping!! I just wish it would reload as fast as the SKS.
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Re: Making A Case For The 308 Winchester By Michael Eichelle

The .308 makes a fine all-around hunting caliber as you detail it. I also consider survival situations in national-international disaster, and availability of ammo makes me think of the .308. It and the 5.56 are likely the two most available calibers worldwide.

Therefore, I just bought a rifle in .308. Son-in-law has used a .308 for several years on elk up to 400 yards, though he's now gone a little crazy with a 7mm STW. Of course the muzzle blast deafens him and his hunting partners, what with the muzzle brake...
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Re: Making A Case For The 308 Winchester By Michael Eichelle

The 308 with handloaded ammo, quality scope, and practice, makes an easy 500yd "Anything in North America" rifle.

It is of course an excellent choice based on the availability of ammo alone.

My Remi-700 with Mark 4, 6.5-20 x 50mm with TMR is killing clay pigeons all day long out to 500yds.

Can't find more options of bullet selection than the 30cal either.

All my friends and family hunt with a magnum, and give me a hard time for using my "little" 308. I still keep making hits that they cannot (because I can practice more for the same price) and everything I hunt seems to die just as much as those shot with the big magnums.

I love my 308, and can't wait to rebarrel in 308.!!!!
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Old 06-21-2011, 12:41 PM
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Re: Making A Case For The 308 Winchester By Michael Eichelle

The 308 is a fine caliber for deer and pigs with the right selection of round.
I have taken Deer and Pigs with one shot 'Down Kills" Using the Hornady 150 Grain A-Max. Used at 100-200 yards
I also use a Remington 700 CDL in 7mm Rem Mag in Texas for open country and longer shots. 150 Grain
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Re: Making A Case For The 308 Winchester By Michael Eichelle

Fine article. I bought a Savage Target rifle (model 12 P/TR in .308) based on some of these conclusions, including long barrel-life...

However I now have a .308 with a 30" barrel with a 1 in 12" twist rate. What bullets greater than 155 grains can I properly stabilize (at long range i.e. 600 yards plus) ?

168 gr A-max ??

165 gr Ballistic-Tip ?

165 gr Swift Scirroco ?

I hope that I'm not limited to 150 gr by my rifle choice. The 30" barrel should help me nearly reach 30-06 velocities (in a normal 22" rifle) so that should help...
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Re: Making A Case For The 308 Winchester By Michael Eichelle

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Fine article. I bought a Savage Target rifle (model 12 P/TR in .308) based on some of these conclusions, including long barrel-life...

However I now have a .308 with a 30" barrel with a 1 in 12" twist rate. What bullets greater than 155 grains can I properly stabilize (at long range i.e. 600 yards plus) ?

168 gr A-max ??

165 gr Ballistic-Tip ?

165 gr Swift Scirroco ?

I hope that I'm not limited to 150 gr by my rifle choice. The 30" barrel should help me nearly reach 30-06 velocities (in a normal 22" rifle) so that should help...
The 12x will stabilize the 190-200 grain bullets. HOWEVER, these are not optimum bullet lengths for this twist. Good accuracy is very common. It takes a bit longer for 190-200 grain pills to settle down with the 12x at 308 velocities.

Any of the 155's, 165's, 168's, 175's, 178's and 180's will shine in the 12x 308.

With a 30" barrel you will see some very good velocities. Many guys are getting 2750+ with the 175-178's in 26" barrels. You could easily hit the 2800-2830 mark.
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