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Making A Case For The 308 Winchester By Michael Eichelle

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Unread 10-11-2009, 07:13 PM
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Making A Case For The 308 Winchester By Michael Eichelle

Before you get a rope and hang me, please note that the purpose of this article is NOT to proclaim that the 308 is a superior cartridge to other popular cartridges. Rather it is to show that the 308, despite being an old has-been with nothing new and sexy, can and will hold her own when compared to other calibers, especially those built on or around the same case. Id also like to show that it is still a very useful and effective round. It absolutely grinds me that so many shooters are of the mindset that sticking a smaller bullet will absolutely spank the 308 in every category. Too many articles have been written by ignorant gun writers about how the 260 Remington or 7-08 blows the 308 right out of the water and makes the 308 obsolete. Sadly, too many shooters have bought into this nonsense.
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Unread 10-11-2009, 07:26 PM
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Re: Making A Case For The 308 Winchester By Michael Eichelle

Love the 308 and the 7mm-08, however I pretty well limit hunting with either one to 300 yards or so. I like the 7mm08 for the fact it is a great 300 yd deer gun with low recoil quick handling.

Just like a flatter shooting cartridge for LR hunting (600 plus) though.

I shoot FTR with a 308 Marine M40A1 stock, Mike Rock M24 countour barrel and 175 SMKs. It will hang with any of the 308s except the Palma guns and 155s at over 3000 fps. The wind will beat you up with it though at LR.

Makes a great learning tool though.


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Unread 10-11-2009, 10:06 PM
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Re: Making A Case For The 308 Winchester By Michael Eichelle

Thank you for the teaching!!! And thanks for reinforcing positively the idea I had for my next long range shooting-hunting rifle. Another reason for me to consider the 308, is that I dont live in USA, and finding cases, primers, bullets, powder is very difficult, except for the 308, because it is the cartridge the military and law enforcement agencies use, and you can get ammo from them. So planning for shooting a lot in my particular case the 308 fits just perfectly, and it will also be my teaching caliber for long range shooting. I know I will be able to shoot with it more accurately farther out than with my 270 Win.
Thanks again for the class!!!
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Unread 10-12-2009, 07:04 PM
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Re: Making A Case For The 308 Winchester By Michael Eichelle

Thanks so much for this insightful article. I have a friend who swears that a minimum size caliber for elk should be .338 Lapua or 300 win.
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Unread 10-12-2009, 10:20 PM
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Re: Making A Case For The 308 Winchester By Michael Eichelle

Dang Michael, I was just about to sell one of my 308s and buy something else. Hope my wife didn't read your article. Seriously though, I have two 308s, one is a very accurate long range practice rig, and the other is an excellent all weather carry rifle (my go to rifle). I was thinking of letting one go to get a larger caliber, but neither one has given me any real reason to get rid of it. I just can't seem to do it even though I have two!
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Unread 10-13-2009, 05:09 AM
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Re: Making A Case For The 308 Winchester

I began deer hunting over 40 years ago. The first center fire I had to shoot was a Remington 141 in 30 Remington. Basically a rimless 30-30 designed for a pump action rifle.

About two years later I bought a Remington 742 in 30-06. I also started reloading centerfire rifle ammo that year. Two years later I had shot 2000 plus rounds through that model 742. The bolt came out and the rifle was returned to Remington. They replaced the bolt, and barrel. It was loose and I traded the rifle for a model 700 BDL in 30-06. Two years later I bought a model 700 BDL in 243. Since then I have owned many more centerfire rifles. In 1981 after graduating from college I bought a model 700 BDL in 300 Win Mag. After shooting about 2200 rounds in that 300 I rebarreled and added a new stock and Canjar set trigger. It had gone through 3 Lepould scopes and now was wearing a 4.5 x 14 X 50 AO. I have harvested over 400 whitetails and 20-30 mule deer, several black bear, several elk, two moose, and a brown bear with this rifle. I have been very pleased with the 300 Win Mag and think it is the most universal of all centerfire rifles.

Getting older and more mature I added a 4 wheeler to my hunting equipment.
My 300 winchester has a 26" barrel and tended to catch every tree and vine I passed while riding the 4 wheeler. I won a Winchester Featherweight 270WSM at a SCI function and decided to trade it for a Remington model 7 Stainless Synthetic in 308. Hornady made the light magnum ammo that was advertised to shoot a 150 grain bullet at 3000 fps. I started load development and worked up a load with 150 grain bullets that was shooting .5 0ne hundred yard groups and acheiving 3019 fps. Over the last 7 years I have fallen in love with that 308. Last year the barrel went south and I thought I would loose shooting the rifle the entire season. Tim North at Broughton barrels made me a new (20" finish length), 1:12, 5C barrel quickly and chambered it within a week af receiving it. Last year I harvested 9 deer with that little rifle.

I have taken deer from near muzzle end out to 300 yards. As with any rifle, with good bullet selection and correct bullet placement it is a first class hunting rifle. I personally think it is one of the best hunting rounds available for the tree stand hunter, walking hunter and mobile hunter. The rifle is capable of longer ranges than 300 yards in heavier longer barreled rifles.

The 308 fills many needs from the begining to the professional shooter.
I also shoot FTR and the 308 is a very good 1000 yard rifle. The target bullets give this rifle an additional 400 yards of effectiveness. With hunting bullets it is my opinion the 308 should be limited to 600 yards for deer sized game.

Yes, I love my 308..

Nat Lambeth
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Unread 10-13-2009, 09:06 AM
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Re: Making A Case For The 308 Winchester By Michael Eichelle

I wish I was able to claim as much experience as Mr. Lambeth....only in time I guess! The truth is, I'm on the forefront of my hunting career and I do still have a lot to learn.

That being said, I truly believe that certain calibers better suit certain situations, as they also suit certain individuals. I've been profoundly fond of the .308, and will eventually pick up a few other calibers along the way - namely the 7mm Rem Mag. Right now, however, I've been more than happy with my .308.

My choice for my first bolt-action came after much research. I spent hours online reading forums and other articles. I shot friends' guns and talked to local dealers. If I would have read this article, I probably would have made the purchase immediately! Very well-written!!!

Forget the 40-year history that the USMC has had with this caliber, just look at the raw data! I love shooting my .308, and I definitely will add on an AR-10 in the near future!

Great job on the article!
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