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Old 04-11-2013, 03:15 PM
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Re: 264 Win Mag - Y would anyone want one?

That is a fast .270 no doubt. I can squeeze 3120 out of a 26 inch kreiger, but not a foot per second more with any brass life.

Roy that 264 sounds about as slow as your 270 is fast

I can get 3200 with a 6.5 140 vld out of a 28 inch long throated 6.5WSM and I think that the 264 had a tad more volume depending on seating depth.

Good luck with them, sounds like they are being stubborn. Life is too short to spend too much time on stubborn guns, but it sure can be satisfying when you whoop em into line.
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Old 04-11-2013, 05:37 PM
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Re: 264 Win Mag - Y would anyone want one?

I wouldn't be so quick to write off the 264WM, particularly when the assessment is based on the old Winchester rifles. Much like the 6.5x284, chamber/throat dimensions, and twist rate can make a huge difference in exploiting the cartridge's potential. Using high BC VLD's with.appropriate throating and twist rate, the 264WM can be solid long range performer. I think Remington realized this when they chose to chamber this round in the Sendaro. As for barrel life, I haven't seen too many 1000 yard+ cartridges capable of taking game with it's efficiency and ballistic performance that do a whole lot better, some worse. IMO.
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Re: 264 Win Mag - Y would anyone want one?

Ill add this to greyfoxs post. If your truely loading that 270 up to the pressures it would take to get 3200 fps your barrel life isnt going to be a bit better then a 264
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Re: 264 Win Mag - Y would anyone want one?

I just inherited my Dad's .264 Win Mag in a 700 Remington. I'm guessing he bought it in the early 60's and probably had less than 100 rds through it. I've not shot it yet and have no idea of what this rifle is capable of. Should I expect it to range farther than my .223 Colt heavy barrel AR, my .243 Browning lever action or my .308 SCAR? I know it will out distance my 30-30, and likely my 30-06, which I've never taken out past 300 yards. I guess my question is, if properly tuned, and assuming good shooting technique, what's the longest accurate range I should anticipate from this gun? How much of an improvement should I see with an optimum load over factory ammo? And for that matter, what would be an optimum load for LR targets and/or hunting?
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Re: 264 Win Mag - Y would anyone want one?

Run the exterior ballistics on the 6.5 Berger @ say 3000 FPS MV. You'll find it will reach out to your expectations.

You challenge will be get it shooting MOA or less. Which shouldn't be too much trouble.

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Old 04-16-2013, 11:34 PM
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Re: 264 Win Mag - Y would anyone want one?

I shoot the 140 Bergers through my 264win @ 3135.. 69g Retumbo

I'll tell you for a fact that-that load right there out-performs a 180grain Berger through a 7mm pipe @ 2900...

Buddy of mine shoots with me about everytime I go out.. his is the 7mm. Comparing impacts on my "mild steel" gongs, past 500 yards the 264 takes a lead.. noticably* At 650 that 180 barely dents the steel... while the 140 outta my 264 gouges an 1/8th-inch deep hole, 3/4 inches in diameter!!! (plate is 3/4"" thick.. heavy stuff)

...at 725, my 264 is still making a dent (& a much-meaner dent at 725 than the 7mm 180 makes at 650) At the same 725, that 7mm 180 is just burning the paint* (...comparable to what 264 140 does to the plate at 840!!!!) That's the difference there.

It's only one example, but plain proof (to me, and buddy) that 264 is a meaner calibre than many give it credit for.. velocity rules the long-range game in my honest opinion... & 264win was intended for the velocity that the 7mm's of same-casings couldn't (& can't) provide...

But... "Y would anyone want one" ???
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Re: 264 Win Mag - Y would anyone want one?

Some of the old 264's were throated for a very specific bullet that had two diameters which makes them shoot awesome with a short conventional bullet but suck with any bullet that is interesting.
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