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Old 11-14-2010, 03:48 PM
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Slow loading

I must be doing something wrong. I use a lot of the gun forums and this is one of My favorites but I have a very hard time using it. I look at the classifieds most often but I have the same problem in other forums as well. It takes 40 seconds to open a page and there are only 10 ads per page. My internet service is not very good and that may be part of it but there must be something else I'm doing wrong. If it's not possible to open pages faster is there a way to increase the number of items per page. This may be very simple to some people but I'm not to computer savey. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I usually get frustrated and switch to a different forum and I would prefer not to but I'm just not that patient. Thank You.
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Old 02-05-2011, 06:55 AM
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Re: Slow loading

This is frustrating to me also; of all the shooting sites I visit, this one is by far slower loading than any of them. I have a satellite high speed system, and recently added more RAM to my computer thinking that would correct the problem, but it has not. What I do is open this site, then minimize and go on to some other web page, come back here a few minutes later when it is fully loaded. It is not necessary to do this on other web sites, so I assume it is the LRH server which causes the problem. Can't the administrator fix this problem?
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Old 02-05-2011, 07:47 AM
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Re: Slow loading

Sorry for your problem! That must be very frustrating and I hope you'll be able to resolve it with some of the suggestions in the following thread.The first part of it is from Dick, our moderator. The last part is from me.
FROM DICK (ss7mm):

In the last month or so I’ve received several questions about the site, speed, computer issues and others along the same line. If you have questions or issues with something maybe some of the following will help.

I use Firefox 3.5.2 and find that IE is v e r r r y slooooow in comparison. I also currently run 47 addons although this is something I don’t recommend. I just like trying them all to see what works or helps.

1: If you are using Firefox and are having problems of any kind, did it start recently and have you installed any addons recently? If so, disable the addons you recently added, restart FF and try it again. Sometimes you will find an addon that will give you problems.

2: If you have recently upgraded your version of FF and are experiencing any difficulties you may have to do a complete delete of FF and a clean, fresh installation of the newest version. Before you do this however, I’d recommend that you make sure you have your profile/s and addons backed up so you can hit the ground running when you do the fresh install. I use FEBE (Firefox Environment Backup Extension). You can get it here: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2109 This is something we had to do a lot with the first versions of FF but with the current installers it’s a rare thing but can happen.

I also use MozBackup and you can get it here: MozBackup - Backup tool for Firefox and Thunderbird

3: If strange things are happening, and not only on LRH, you may be the lucky recipient of a bug, virus, Trojan, Malware etc. Below are the steps I’d recommend to clean your computer up. Usually the first 3 will get you cleaned up. You can be infected and still be able to use the internet, you will just start to notice things not working right or slowing down. Keep it clean. You might be surprised to find out how many infections you have on your system.

A. Install and run these programs.
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If these don't find it or can't clear it, post in one of these forums for specialized malware removal help:
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B. Close all applications and reboot the computer.
Delete any downloaded or partially downloaded installer files.
Clear the browser cache (of whatever browser you are using to download FF) and the Windows Temp directory.
Delete the directory C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox
Shutdown any anti-virus software you are running.
Download a new copy of the full installer from www.mozilla.com
Run the installer.
Restart the anti-virus program.

I have FF set to clear cache and cookies when closing FF and only keep cookies until I close FF. I also run “Cookie Culler” and “Clear Cache” in FF. You can get them here: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/82 and https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1801.

4: I also run “NoScript” and highly recommend it. You can read about it, and get it, here: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/722 When first installed you will have to click the poor mouse a time or two to allow the sites you use all of the time but, for me at least, it’s not a big deal and only takes a second or two and then it’s done permanently.

5: I have used “CCleaner” since before it was “CCleaner” and highly recommend it. It runs whenever I reboot or restart the computer and I also periodically run it to clean out the junk.

6: With the sites we have now days I also make sure that Java is updated and you can check on that here: java.com: Java + You

A lot of this may seem like overkill and I’m not saying that you have to use it all or do it all. I’m just recommending some things that may help you out and you can pick and choose what you try.

I will say this though, if you run Firefox and can run 47 addons then you must have a clean system and things must be running pretty smoothly. I have no problem with any sites unless it’s a programming thing and then it’s usually something that means that you are forced to use IE on a site occasionally. In that case, I normally use “IE Tab” and you can get it here: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1419

Remember, keep it clean, keep everything backed up and documented, especially before making any changes.

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This is Len.

I'm sorry that even one of you may have a slow experience on LRH but it seems to be a very small number statistically. We have 30,000 registered members and 260,000 total different visitors per month. The number of SLOW comments is very small, maybe one or two per month per month. When I do speed tests using sophisticated tools, our site loads pretty well compared to other large sites. A little slower than some but I am talking a few seconds per page, not the interminable slow that a few report. The difference between a few seconds in the tests and REALLY slow by a few tells me that their problem is somehow on their computer.

I am editing Dick's helpful post to add a suggestion made by my friend who owns BigGameHunt.net. She is a computer GURU and recommends Google Chrome as a browser. I have used Firefox for years and like it. In the past year I have found Chrome to be even better. For the record -- Internet Explorer is NOT slow on my computer. All these issues seem to vary a LOT depending on how individual computers are setup and on which plugins they utilize.


Back in July we launched a new version of BigGameHunt and with that came some site speed complaints. We spent a considerable amount of time improving the performance on the server side and have made significant gains over July. We also will continue to evaluate and implement new techniques that will make BGH faster to load.

One of the questions that has come up is why the new site is slower than the old site. One of the biggest reasons is that our new site makes more use of Javascript (a web language that runs on your computer in the browser). Javascript is used on the client side (your computer) and thus, beyond a few minor adjustments on the server side, there is not a lot we can do to speed it up on your computer. To speed up Javascript, the interpreter in your browser needs to be faster. One way to do this is to buy a faster computer, which is not exactly cost efficient. The second way to speed up the interpreter is to run a more efficient Javascript engine in your browser. Enter Google Chrome.

Google released a free browser a few years ago and the V8 (yes its really named after the classic internal combustion engine design) Javascript engine is well known to be considerably faster than current Internet Explorer versions as well as the latest Firefox. In our testing there is a considerable speed boost when browsing BGH in Google Chrome. While there are some minor cosmetic issues in Chrome, the speed boost is well worth a try.

If you would like to try Chrome on your computer when browsing BGH or the web at large, it is available for free download here:

Google Chrome - Get a fast new browser. For PC, Mac, and Linux

Note that all is not lost for Firefox, there are some beta versions of the 4.0 version of Firefox that use Mozilla's new JaegerMonkey (yes that's Hunter Monkey) engine that show promising Javascript benchmarks. Firefox 4.0 will be out next year.

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Last edited by Len Backus; 02-05-2011 at 07:50 AM.
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Old 02-05-2011, 10:23 AM
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Re: Slow loading

It slow for me to but I'm so addicted to it I dont care
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Old 02-05-2011, 10:42 AM
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Re: Slow loading

I've tried both servers, and it's still a lot slower then the 'Hide'. Too many adds to load. Most of the time you can't even see the post with out scrolling down. Whole screen of adds. I like whats here, when it comes up. Just my .02 cents...
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Old 02-05-2011, 10:50 AM
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Re: Slow loading

I wish anyone with REALLY slow issues would actually try changing browsers and then report back.

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Old 02-05-2011, 12:35 PM
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Re: Slow loading

I didn't expect any more replies to this after three months, thanks. Doubling the number of items per page has helped. I can't try any of the changes suggested because the computer I use belongs To My employer. We are allowed to use them for personal use but not to make changes. They want everyone's to be the same. I don't understand though if the problem is with My computer why does it only happen on LRH and to a much lesser extent on 24hrcampfire. Calguns, the ruger forum, rimfirecentral, thehighroad, accuratereloading , armslist, and others all load nearly instantly? Is it possible that other people are having the same experience and just haven't said anything? Thanks again for getting back to Me, I really enjoy Your web site I just wish I could use it more. Fred.
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