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What is your preferred scope reticle calibration?

 
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Old 09-19-2012, 07:10 PM
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Re: What is your preferred scope reticle calibration?

jtkratzer

I believe you off by a factor of 10. One mil at 1000 yards is one yard. If it were 1 mil at 100 yards you would have a hard time adjusting arty with any accuracy.

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Old 09-20-2012, 08:32 AM
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Re: What is your preferred scope reticle calibration?

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Old 09-20-2012, 10:44 AM
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Re: What is your preferred scope reticle calibration?

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jtkratzer

I believe you off by a factor of 10. One mil at 1000 yards is one yard. If it were 1 mil at 100 yards you would have a hard time adjusting arty with any accuracy.

dirty dave
Right, but you can adapt the mil to any unit of measure for width as long as you use the same unit of measure for range.

1 mil at 1000 yards is 1 yard or 1 meter at 1000 meters. You can't mix.

I had a typo and brain fart at the same time with the phone on that post.

The point was you can make it anything you want... 1 mil can be 1 size 10 shoe at a range 1000 size 10 shoes.

The base 10 system work for whatever unit of measure you want to roll with.
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Old 09-20-2012, 11:51 AM
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Re: What is your preferred scope reticle calibration?

You are right and that is why I prefer mils on my scope. Even though I took a lot of math in school I haven't been able to do it in my head since hand held calculators were invented. Mils keeps me from having to do all that.
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Old 09-21-2012, 06:37 PM
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Re: What is your preferred scope reticle calibration?

Since leaving the Army in '83, just been using MOA. Couldn't afford (still can't) nice scopes and after trying to make civilian scopes work, I just decided to go back to MOA since it was how I originally learned in the 60's. Couple that with hunting in the swamps for years, where a long shot was 50 yards, just lost the art. And most of the civilian shooters really struggle with the mil system. Trying to regain some lost skills and knowledge by stopping by as I can...
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Old 09-22-2012, 02:36 PM
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Re: What is your preferred scope reticle calibration?

MOA is more intuitive for Americans -for hold-offs.
Our distance reference is in INCHES, and MOA is closer & higher definition w/resp to INCHES.
Even better for us is IPHY, which most scopes must ultimately be measured & taken to for accuracy(even though marketed as MOA -few are).

MILs work for rough optical ranging, but LRFs way better cover this function.
Given LRFs, there is no longer a real basis for FFP scopes, or MILs.
Never liked either anyway..
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Old 09-23-2012, 06:51 PM
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Re: What is your preferred scope reticle calibration?

I am new here and do not want to ruffle any feathers however being an old Fire Direction Control Marine I chuckled out loud when a previous poster said that a Mil. is adjustable. Or did I read it wrong.
As I recall a Mil. is an angle derived from a Division of a circle into 6400 mils.
This does away with the minutes and seconds it takes to achieve accuracy from using degrees. Cuts down on the math for Artillery equations and shooting solutions.
You can't make it a foot at 1000 yards or a yard or whatever you want
It is a constantly growing dimension with range. A mil is the same at any given range. That would be the circumference divided by 6400. What ever range you are at when you hit a meter will be different than when you hit a yard. a size 10 shoe will be somewhat closer range than a meter.
If a MIL was able to adapt to whatever we wanted it to be some very basic principles of Physics would be very wrong and Obama would be President

Again, A Mil is based on a circle cut into 6400 equal pies shapes to create Mils.
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