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Do You Hunt With A Muzzleloader?

 
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Old 12-14-2012, 10:20 AM
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Re: Do You Hunt With A Muzzleloader?

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I'd really like to buy a savage ml. Which of the 2 is better and why anybody? Thanks
They are different in a lot of ways.

Savage 10ML was a Savage model 10 bolt action PRE-Accutrigger rifle.
It used a special module that looked similat to a 45 case that you inserted a 209 primer.
The module had a tendency to leak over time.
These are all over 10 years old now.
They should still be grandfathered and not need a FFL and can be made centerfire by changing the barrel which I think were all large shank.

Here is the Savage 10ML sketch:



Since it was a bolt action rifle the BATF later ruled that it required a FFL but gave Savage time to comply or change the design.

The Savage ML-2 action does not have locking lugs and can't easily be converted to centerfire so no FFL required.

Depending how old it is is may be pre accutrigger or it may be Accutrigger.
Removing the bolt requires loosening the rear action screw.

Current models are only Blue, and I think all are small shank.

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Old 12-21-2012, 06:41 AM
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Re: Do You Hunt With A Muzzleloader?

Awesome explanation and graphics, thank you very much. Can the module you described easily be replaced? The leaking you mentioned, what happens when it leaks, I'm assuming it leaks gases from the ignition?
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Old 12-21-2012, 04:55 PM
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Re: Do You Hunt With A Muzzleloader?

Edge really knows what he is talking about when it comes the Savage 10ML and 10ML-ll. They are great guns I just shot a 10 point buck with my 50 cal 10ML-ll. I would not use anything else to shoot deer. I let my rifled barreled shotgun in the safe. I do a lot better with the Savage.
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Old 01-03-2013, 12:06 PM
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Re: Do You Hunt With A Muzzleloader?

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Awesome explanation and graphics, thank you very much. Can the module you described easily be replaced? The leaking you mentioned, what happens when it leaks, I'm assuming it leaks gases from the ignition?
The original rifle came with three modules and I do not know if anyone makes replacements, but a machine shop could easily reproduce them.
Some folks made spacers inside of the bolt head to take up any gap.
Mainly when they leaked it was mainly just dirty kind of like shooting a revolver.

Most folks liked the newer model since they got rid of the modules which made re-priming easier.
They both have their own advantages.

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Old 01-03-2013, 08:45 PM
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Re: Do You Hunt With A Muzzleloader?

Have you ever had issues with the accutrigger in cold, snowy or icey weather?
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Old 01-04-2013, 09:12 AM
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Have you ever had issues with the accutrigger in cold, snowy or icey weather?
I like the accutrigger and some don't.
You need to practice with gloves because if you do not pull straight back you just get a click!
I like that you can have a hunting trigger set very low and it is still safe.

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Old 01-14-2013, 04:31 PM
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Re: Do You Hunt With A Muzzleloader?

I have two, well more but hunt with two. first is a Savage ML-11 45 caliber McGowan barreled rifle and the other is a NEF sent to SMI w/ 45 caliber 1-20 twist Douglass barrel. Both shoot less than 1 MOA w/ N-120 or H-4198 and mostly shoot sabotless loads as the sabots just drive me nuts
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