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View Poll Results: Which is the better hunting bullet?
Barnes TSX/TTSX 417 61.05%
Nosler Partition 266 38.95%
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Old 10-04-2013, 04:54 AM
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Re: Barnes TSX/TTSX vs Nosler Partition

I must admit that I don’t have much experience with the Barnes. Used it (250 gr) once before in a Heym SR 20 9,3x62 loaded by Sako. The bullet was precise though, but a huge amount of copper fouling and the performance on game was so la’ la’. Nothing I was impressed about. On the other the (7 x65R) 175gr Nosler Partition that I have been using in a break action rifle (Sauer & Sohn Drilling) since 1992. I killed many different kinds (red deer, fallow deer, wild boar, roe etc.) of game in large numbers and the Nosler never let me down. Therefore, I will use it also in future times.
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Old 10-07-2013, 04:57 PM
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Re: Barnes TSX/TTSX vs Nosler Partition

Just returned from Africa where I used the Barnes 300 TSX Vor-Tx @ 2650 (clocked) factory on everything from a 20 lb steenbok, thru cape buffalo and a 3000 lb giraffe. Here's the ones I recovered ....



For what its worth, my impression was that the 260 Partitions (last trip) killed the various antelope a bit faster but I sure wouldn't want to use them on anything larger than eland for penetration reasons. As an example, the Livingston Eland absorbed three solid shoulder hits from 3 different angles with the TSX before he tipped over, whereas a single 260 partition finished the last one, but this is far from conclusive.

Far-hide recovery on an angling-away shot at a 3000 lb giraffe is about the best one can expect from a bullet, yet on a 20 lb steenbok or 100 lb bushbuck the exit wounds indicated some expansion had taken place.
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Re: Barnes TSX/TTSX vs Nosler Partition

Excellent pictures and documentation
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Old 10-18-2013, 07:59 AM
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Re: Barnes TSX/TTSX vs Nosler Partition

I would pick Barnes , I hunt in aarea which requires the use of copper only bullets. I not happy with the new nosler green tip copper bullets. I feel that the green tips are to soft. I had to reduce the powder charge, showing pressure signs.
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I would pick Barnes , I hunt in aarea which requires the use of copper only bullets. I not happy with the new nosler green tip copper bullets. I feel that the green tips are to soft. I had to reduce the powder charge, showing pressure signs.
I tend to agree, though haven't used any Nosler or Hornady all-copper bullets yet. I did attempt to use the older, non-banded Barnes including the old blue XLC and was not successful in getting them to shoot. The Barnes TSX/TTSX seems to have solved that problem as some of the better / hotter loads I've been shooting have been with them.

Interestingly, I have not been able to improve on Barnes new VOR-TX factory fodder. With them I have been getting as good or better velocities than I care to handload, and accuracy has been outstanding.

Barnes bullets seem to shoot best in my rifles when seated well away from the lands. I built the .375 H&H shooting the expanded bullets in the photo to accept a loaded OAL of 3.8" with Wyatts Extended Mag Box. Had Kevin Wyatt machine the receiver and I monkeyed with the bolt stop and ejector length for a week to make it 100% reliable on dangerous game.

Seating the 300 and 350 .375 TSX to the lands results in an OAL of 3.775" in a SAAMI standard H&H chamber with the TSX's. The leade is so long to accommodate round nose solids. Multiple attempts to get TSX (outfitter insisted on them for buffalo) handloads to shoot sub-moa when the bullets were seated to 3.720" (0.055" away) were unsuccessful.

All this was for naught, as VOR-TX Safari factory loads with an OAL of 3.348" nearly cloverleaf and do it at 2650 fps in this, my pet 26" barreled and breaked "375 M70 Dragonslayer" with almost 1/2" (0.427") of freebore! So much for seating them into the lands...

It is not a fluke. Another 24" Kimber 8400 Captiva I use clocks 2550 or so with the same load and the groups are just a tad bigger, just over an inch, certainly adequate for dangerous game.

I can keep going. I have a .300 RUM with an 26" 5R Bartlein barrel that shoots the Barnes VOR-TX TTSX 180 factory better and faster as well. I'm sitting here looking at a 0.610" 5-shot group at 200 yards I fired with it last summer. Clocked 3375 fps at 10 feet even though it says 3250 on the box. Haven't come near the loading bench for it since. I just wish all of the factory stuff was like this.

I know this sounds like a Barnes ad but it really comes from the surprise I got when, after years of less-than-satisfactory attempts to make the all-coppers shoot in a variety of big-game rifles, they finally came out a winner. I have to say, though, the 260 Noslers continue to be a great choice in the .375 @ 2800 fps. for thin-skinned game, and the 160 Accubonds @ 2950 fps (62/H4831 OAL 3.462", .030" gap) in my .280 AI are half-moa as far as I can shoot well, better than anything I was able to do with the TTSX so far this year.
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Re: Barnes TSX/TTSX vs Nosler Partition

I too have had good results with the barnes ttsx/tsx in my 7mm & 300wm. Since I live in komnifornia and our illustrious governor just signed a state wide ban on ALL lead ammunition, we are left with few choices at this point.
I have tried most all mono's and have found the cutting edge and barnes to shoot the best for me. I taken a lot of game with barnes and have had good results, waiting to try the CE's some day.
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Re: Barnes TSX/TTSX vs Nosler Partition

Ive illed 30 or more head of game, including an entire African Safari with the TTSX and I have never had a poor performance. A black wildebeest is the animal to make it the furthest, running about 70 yards or so pouring blood from a double lung shot, then fell over dead. I have used them from 50 yards to 550 with flawless performance.
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