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Old 01-11-2012, 07:06 PM
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Re: Canadian wants to buy a stock that is unavailable in Canada

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American companies can sell and ship rifle stocks north of the border to a Canadian adress without issue as long as the value of the stock is less than $100. I've bought a few stocks from Boyd's without issue. I've bought quite a few used stocks from people in USA that were valued under $100 without issue as well.

If you wish to purchase a higher priced stock, there are several good importers that will help you out. PM me if you'd like to know the info on a good one

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Alright that got me thinking and I've done some reading.

This covers the legal issues stateside...
http://pmddtc.state.gov/licensing/do...s_Firearms.pdf

Specific to this article, section V "Exemptions" states the following...
123.17(a) Minor components - Components and parts for Category I firearms are
exempt from licensing requirements when the total value does not exceed $100
wholesale in any single transaction. Barrels, cylinders, receivers (frames), or

complete breech mechanisms are major components and require a license.

Here is what the canadian govornment says.....
Frequently Asked Questions


Q4. I want to buy parts in the US for my firearm and import them into Canada.
A4. The US controls on the export of firearms extends to parts also. For small orders worth less than US$100.00 the US Department of State allows an exemption from the export licence. This exemption, however, does not cover ‘significant’ parts which includes; barrels, slides, cylinders, bolts, frames and receivers. It should be noted that there is no equivalent exemption offered by the Department of Commerce for shotgun parts. Further, there is no exemption for ammunition or ammunition components. Canadian importers should follow the procedure outlined in Q1 (above) to import parts not exempted.

So the question is, what exactly is a rifle stock defined as? I would argue that the definitions of the 'significant parts' do not refer to the wooden stock of a bolt action rifle.

Also, it seems that both sides talk about the $100 US dollar cost being the limit that seperate the items that do not need exportation permits from the ones that do, assuming they are not 'significant' parts as defined earlier. Also, the US side states specificlly, "when the total value does not exede $100 wholesale in any single transaction" (bolding mine)

Think about it....the COST OF THE STOCK has to be less than $100. If it just so happened that the buyer accidentaly gave you more.......

Like I said, just throwing that out there.....but I dont intend to get myself or anyone in trouble. If this sounds illegal please let me know and i will put the issue to rest for good.
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Old 01-11-2012, 10:19 PM
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Re: Canadian wants to buy a stock that is unavailable in Canada

Never mind, I'm just gonna build my own.
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Old 01-11-2012, 10:40 PM
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Re: Canadian wants to buy a stock that is unavailable in Canada

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Well guys, here's the long and short of it...

It is a violation of Title 19, United States Code, Section 1595a(d), Title 22, United States Code, Section 401 and Title 22, Code of Federal Regulations, Parts 120-130 to send a stock outside of the US, as gun stocks are listed on the Department of Commerce, Commerce Control List, (CCL).

Don't ask me how I know these specifics Maybe because U.S. Customs and Border Protection corresponded with me very recently. We had coffee together as we went over the six page document I received...

If you are out of the US, and want to purchase the stock, you will need to involve both an importer and an exporter, and you will need to complete the required documentation on both ends.
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+1 What he said... I got the same six page letter...
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Old 01-11-2012, 10:46 PM
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Re: Canadian wants to buy a stock that is unavailable in Canada

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+1 What he said... I got the same six page letter...
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Old 01-11-2012, 11:22 PM
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Re: Canadian wants to buy a stock that is unavailable in Canada

No letter here but I have a real nice scope sitting in customs clearing in Chicago that I can have back if I go get it but I imagine that there would be more implications if I did show up to claim it......

I just chalked it up to my ignorance in reading fine print concerning exportation of hunting optics to Canada.

Customs clearing has a nice scope now....................
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Old 01-12-2012, 08:48 AM
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No letter here but I have a real nice scope sitting in customs clearing in Chicago that I can have back if I go get it but I imagine that there would be more implications if I did show up to claim it......

I just chalked it up to my ignorance in reading fine print concerning exportation of hunting optics to Canada.

Customs clearing has a nice scope now....................

And a $1,500.00 stock that I donated...
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Old 01-12-2012, 08:28 PM
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Re: Canadian wants to buy a stock that is unavailable in Canada

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And a $1,500.00 stock that I donated...
Ya think that maybe those agents in Chicago can build a nice custom piece with all the stuff they collect from ill-informed people like us???

Just another reason not to like Illinois besides their Draconian attitude concerning handguns.......

I have family south of Joilet and everytime I get close to the Indiana/Illinois border, I get the 'willies'. I view western Indiana as the end of the civilized world and Bettendorf, Iowa as the civilized world beginning again......
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