I bought this then before I even mounted it realized I wouldn't be happy unless I had another Nightforce. I am the second owner, the original owner purchased 1 year ago, and if I remember right never even shot with it. I have not mounted it, and except for missing the plastic wraper you can't tell it is not new. No marks on the scope or the glass. Comes with box and all paperowrk. SWFA says new it's $1,179, I'll be happy with $850 shipped.